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Thread: Test Centre Update: Called Shot Changed

MikDiBoken
Thu Oct 13, 2005 1:09 pm
#1


Test Centre
Version 0.138003



  • Inventory scrollbar should work properly when the text in the examine window exceeds the size of the window.
  • Changed Accuracyand Damage bonuses for Called Shot
  • Fixed hyperspace effect
  • Camps will automatically clean up 5 minutes after being abandoned

Has anyone tried this out on Test Centre yet?


I assume it makes it more reasonable power but ive not been paying much attention to TC

Message Edited by MikDiBoken on 10-13-2005 09:09 PM



Colonel Mik'di Boken, Imperial Army
Level 90 Officer (Elder Master Squad Leader)

"I have nothing to offer but /bleed, grinds, action costs and whines." - Sir Winston Churchill
Loki_Ashaman
Thu Oct 13, 2005 1:13 pm
#2


Note just got posted, is TC even back up yet?


I think this is the same patch note, but they've phrased it differently for the Beta's update today.(Hope since its SL-revamp related it can be posted under partial NDA )



  • Checked the power of Called Shot from a Master SL followed up with Sniper Shot from a Master Rifleman

Interesting difference in phrasing...





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Mardius Ashalar, Commissar: Commander of the Daishi
Larikuj V'neef, DOH Mall: Theed (-5240, 2770)
"A pilot without his attitude is just some guy" - TomoRainer


Darth_Sushi
Thu Oct 13, 2005 2:12 pm
#3

I'm stuck at work so I can't get in the game. I would like somebody to verify as soon as possible that Called Shot got adjusted and that the multiple group buffing by a single Squad Leaderbug did not.





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Loki_Ashaman
Thu Oct 13, 2005 2:32 pm
#4

I plan on checking it in about an hour, already lining up testers onTC-2.




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Mardius Ashalar, Commissar: Commander of the Daishi
Larikuj V'neef, DOH Mall: Theed (-5240, 2770)
"A pilot without his attitude is just some guy" - TomoRainer


SpunkyKuma
Thu Oct 13, 2005 2:43 pm
#5

"Checked the power of Called Shot from a Master SL followed up with Sniper Shot from a Master Rifleman"

Would that be the devs' response after Cofe's screenshot on Tafres was revealed? Like this?

Note- the original location of the picture (taken in Mos Eisley) disappeared, assuming upon request from devs.



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Loki_Ashaman
Thu Oct 13, 2005 2:49 pm
#6

Yes. And the screenshot disappeared because of all the people clicking it and trying to turn the host server into a pile of molten metal and plastic, ala the slashdot effect. Dev's have no power over that image.




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Mardius Ashalar, Commissar: Commander of the Daishi
Larikuj V'neef, DOH Mall: Theed (-5240, 2770)
"A pilot without his attitude is just some guy" - TomoRainer


Loki_Ashaman
Thu Oct 13, 2005 4:40 pm
#7

Info Update (Will be adding to Sylow's focused testing thread shortly...): Went killing Bols on TC2 (Mustafar too much lag )


Improved Critical (control shots): 1274 raw damage, 595 damage absorbed, 679 damage dealt.


Improved Critical + Called Shot (MSL + Human): 2686 raw damage, 1255 damage absorbed, 1431 damage dealt.


Master Squad Leader + Human Called Shot Bonus: 110%






Additional notes:



  • Buffs still do not reset correctly, I could apply multiple buffs to my pet.

  • Called shot appears to be the next attack only. If my pet hits before I do after a called shot, my pets attack get the bonus. If I hit before my pet after the called shot, I get the bonus.





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Mardius Ashalar, Commissar: Commander of the Daishi
Larikuj V'neef, DOH Mall: Theed (-5240, 2770)
"A pilot without his attitude is just some guy" - TomoRainer


Loki_Ashaman
Thu Oct 13, 2005 5:13 pm
#8

I posted the following in the OMG SL's are going to PWN us, NERF THEM thread in the Jedi forum. Anyone have any comments or corrections on my statements?:


Info Update: Went killing Bols on TC2 (Mustafar too much lag )


Note: This testing is performed after the rebalance of the Called Shot special.


Improved Critical (control shots): 1274 raw damage, 595 damage absorbed, 679 damage dealt.


Improved Critical + Called Shot (MSL + Human): 2686 raw damage, 1255 damage absorbed, 1431 damage dealt.


Master Squad Leader + Human(135 Leadership)Called Shot Bonus: 110%

Previous Called Shot Bonus (125 Leadership): 155%


Addtional Explanation for anyone who doesn't understand Called Shot: Called Shot only affects the very next attack, if there are multiple attackers it only affects the next attack of the group. In a BH vs Jedi encounter, if a BH wanted to do make maximum use of Called Shot he would alternate them (Called Shot, Critical Shot, Called Shot, etc). Using the above number as an example, he would do 1431 damage every two actions. Compare this to a BH who alternates Critical Shot with similar damage attack (say Head Shot), the 2nd BH would do 679 + 679 = 1358 damage every two actions. Maximum use of Called shot will equal a 5% increase in DPS by a solo character. The scariest part of Called Shot for a Jedi will be when coupled with Sniper Shot, it will be a huge "W-T-F was that" attack, but that huge damage is not going to continue every attack.


Addition Issues with Squad Leader affecting the screenshots floating around: There are 2 issues / bugs contributing to the above insanely high damage screenshots.


  1. Group Buffs are not resetting properly. When an SL has a group buff active, and applies a new buff it cancels his current one (This is Intended) BUT it does not cancel the current buff on his group (This is a Bug). Thus a single MSL can apply all of the group buffs to his group, instead of just one at a time. This has been brought to the Devs attention, and hopefully will be fixed before going Live.
  2. Group Buffs are not ending when disbanding. After recieving a buff, a person can disband from the SL's group and retain the buff. This is a Bug, and has been reported to the Devs.
  3. Group Buffs are not ending when you leave range of the SL. A person can get a buff, travel to another planet, and still have the buff. This is a Bug as far as the SL community is concerned, and has been reported to the Devs.

I hope you can see why Squad Leaders feel the above 3 are huge issues, as it affectively turns us into Buff-Bots. Those 3 also make it so that a single SL can create a super-powered toon via his buffs. Once those 3 bugs are corrected, the only way a Jedi will see a BH hit the Jedi with the Uber Alpha strikes shown above is by convincing multiple SLs to follow him around while he tracks down the Jedi. I have far better things to do then follow a BH from planet to planet, and then buff him when he is 400m from his mark.


Message Edited by Loki_Ashaman on 10-13-2005 07:15 PM




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Mardius Ashalar, Commissar: Commander of the Daishi
Larikuj V'neef, DOH Mall: Theed (-5240, 2770)
"A pilot without his attitude is just some guy" - TomoRainer


MikDiBoken
Thu Oct 13, 2005 5:23 pm
#9

Have you tried Called Shot with Sniper shot? Perhaps they dissabled/toned down thetwo together so it isnt such a super first strike, would explain the:


Checked the power of Called Shot from a Master SL followed up with Sniper Shot from a Master Rifleman



Colonel Mik'di Boken, Imperial Army
Level 90 Officer (Elder Master Squad Leader)

"I have nothing to offer but /bleed, grinds, action costs and whines." - Sir Winston Churchill
Loki_Ashaman
Thu Oct 13, 2005 5:30 pm
#10

No I haven't, but I will note that Tiggs changed the Beta patch note that I postedto be the same as the Live one that you posted above.


If I did a Sniper Shot test, I would like to do it with the same Jedi and the same Rifleman / MSL (since I'm not completely sure of her temp) under the same conditions as my previous tests, since I had uber buffed her to simulate multiple SLs buffing a target. Neither of those two are online, and I don't know how much longer until they are online.





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Mardius Ashalar, Commissar: Commander of the Daishi
Larikuj V'neef, DOH Mall: Theed (-5240, 2770)
"A pilot without his attitude is just some guy" - TomoRainer


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