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Thread: Group Melee Defense?

captiansarcasmo
Mon Nov 15, 2004 6:21 pm
#1


100% agree 8 out of 10 fools don't recognize.


fools.




jailyn

GameMan2k
Fri Jun 17, 2005 3:53 pm
#2

Question about Leadership II & III .


These skills is supposed to grant everyone in the group + 10 and + 15 Melee Defense.


I am Squad Leader 0/2/3/0


However there is no indication of a group melee defense increase when I join or lead a group.


I’ve hade group member look on their skills menu and their character sheet.


Where should this melee defense ‘increase’ information appear?



I will display the "Test Center" icon until SWG is bug free.
Sylow
Fri Jun 17, 2005 5:33 pm
#3

Unfortunately there is only one place where you can see that it works: the combat log.

As this is rather cumbersome to figure out, many people refuse to check it and prefer to think/claim that it does not work. Which again convices them (and other people) that SL is even more broken than it actually is and that it's a totally worthless profession. (And that a SL just used up a valuable slot in team and should not be invited.)






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captiansarcasmo
Fri Jun 17, 2005 6:28 pm
#4


100% agree 8 out of 10 fools don't recognize.


fools.




jailyn

GameMan2k
Sat Jun 18, 2005 4:32 am
#5






Sylow wrote:
Unfortunately there is only one place where you can see that it works: the combat log.

As this is rather cumbersome to figure out, many people refuse to check it and prefer to think/claim that it does not work.




Thx for your response, However.. I'm still having trouble finding any reference.


I checked the combat log before, during and after combat, (with a Bol on Dant. MO, which I assume is considered Melee) and nothing listed.


I have 'two' accounts,a Master Pikemen/Master Doc.anda Novice Squad Leader/Pistoleer, both characters are Wookies and on the same server (Bria), so I can run all sorts of tests at my leasure.


Are you saying that the system is automatically reducing the amount of melee damage without indicating it?


My Novice SL/Pistoleer is a CL 42, and it's hard to find hunting groups on Bira that accepts players with a CL less than 60 (there's all sorts of discrimination goning on there, but that's another post)


I was trying to use the "+15 Melee Defense" as a lure to be accepted into higher level hunting groups, but no one is having it, becasue they can't see any physical evendience of an increase.



I will display the "Test Center" icon until SWG is bug free.
Sylow
Sat Jun 18, 2005 8:26 am
#6


Are you saying that the system is automatically reducing the amount of melee damage without indicating it?


That's exactly what's happening. The system also doesn't indicate that your damage is decreased, just because you yourself gain skills like melee defence and ranged defence, right?



If you want to test, just put both of your chars into one team, get a mission against some creature, let one char attack and see how much damage he takes.


Then change the leader and do the same. You will notice that when the Squad Leader is leading the team, without doing anything else, the tank (no matter who it is, just make sure it's always the same) takes less damage.






Learn to sing!
Infinity - Papyn Biboon
MSL, MCarb Grunt Leader
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