Squad Leader Archive

Hi you all know my feelings for the new skill set...

I would expect all of these things as a given...so when we get the change I will just take all my squad leader macros out of the quickbar and replace them with these ones or I could surrender the skill points keep the /yell /say macros and take a profession that ishandy to leading a group.

These preposed skills...they are basicallysaying - here look we are revamping the proffession you should be grateful!! are in realitythings we do and use already...we dont need to learn these skills to create the same effect, the only difference between a leader using macros and a squad leader with these abilities is that the leader has had to type out yell macros and wot not and the squad leader has had it done automatically.

These abilities should be taken for granted as the foundation of the proffession... now we need special abilities ON TOP of these. Im sorry but the proposed fix is just not near enough, there needs to be alot more.

ATM I know I will use them, but I dont need to - People listen to my commands and follow my orders because they know I know what im doing, I currently do 80% of the stuff manually without the needto spend 135skill points in total to be a master squad leader. People who I dont remember send me tells ALL the time asking if im leading any groups atm as they want to group with me, people HAVE paid to jump across 2 planets to come be in a group im leading what are the devs doing for me?

Well all they are doing for the skill is offically confirmingabilities that I already posses, so they are turning Squad Leader Professioninto a certificate - if people are willing to pay the 135 skill points to have a certificate which says - I can do these things officially now, same as I could basically do them before I spent 135 skill points to have this profession.

Leaders do well when leading by example, people will follow and listen to someone who give the group success and atm If I had a character that didNOT have Mastersquadleader or any skills in SLversus myCURRENT char whichDOES I would be 95% as effective at leading the same group of people without any skill points in squad leader - now tell me if the preposed fix sounds worthwhile?

To summerise Squad Leaders Changes....

Changethe forced commands, and replace them with a query - do you want to change to this target hit space bar kind of setup - why? because if someone is holding off mass aggro I dont want them being forced tochanging to the group target so everyone gets wiped out.

This will allow a SL to sensibly guide the group, without the abriasive and constrictive forcing them into commands.

Give us more abilities ontop of the changes - (they should be taken for granted foundation to the skill)be they passive or not, even Tree Perks of some sort, things that wecan use - something useful.

At the end of the day people should be jumping at the chance to be lead by a Squad Leader but in the same stead realise that some squad leaders are far far far superior to others. Even with the proposed changes the profession is skeletal, and people are not going ooooh a goodsquad leader...more likely atmthey are going ooh we got a revive doctor in the group as the sole reason for joining and not if the leader has squad leaderabilities - most likely to carry on after the change.

*sigh*

So to be positive for a change maybe they are just putting the skeletal frame in place for the squad leader professionbefore Fleshing Squad Leaders out ALOT more on top of this change...so lets ALL hope it is a foundation on which they will build and god help us nota final fix to the tree.

And finally I know im ranting on but what is driving us all crazy is that the Devs DONT communicate with us because atm we are not getting ANY feedback from them which is what we need! Communication between the devs and the Squad Leaders to Fix a currently non-existant proffession Like the other professions get!

Naff, you've hit the nail dead on here. This whole concept of skills that just force people to do something they can do on their own. . . it's absurd. I also get /tells from people who I have led on mission groups before asking if I am running one, because I ran it well and everyone improved under my leadership. I didn't need to issue a command to force everyone to stop shooting. They did so on my request because they knew I knew what I was doing.

It's absurd. By this sort of definition, right now my ALT (who hasn't broken out of any of the starter Professions yet) is just as good a Squad Leader as a Master Squad Leader. These skills are only useful if you are a LOUSY Squad Leader, or if you are leading idiots who don't know how to play the game. I'm so disappointed I don't have words for it. . .

Squad Leader is becoming a joke.

I agree, rather than turning your groups into zombies, i'll be sticking by my old ways. 95% of my groupmates listen to me, because they've been with me enough they know I know what i'm doing, and new people to the group often catch on quick, or find themselves not in my group anymore. Simple as that.

I'd have much more use as a squad leader having more passive abilities, and the commands we already have actually working.