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Thread: Defence Acuity

cydonia
Wed Dec 17, 2003 6:34 am
#1

Most of you probably know about the TKA Defense Acuity


For those who don't its a skill that increases the chance that counterattack, dodge, and block will work.


They only recently added this to the TKA line.


First of all i want to say this power is UNREAL! if you go master TKA and you take the defense lines of pikeman and fencer and swordsman and you become GOD! slap on some 90% composite and you can take on 4 AT-ST and the two people controling them (no joke) without a sweet.


First of all i would like to say thatthere are 4the melee classes one with counterattack(swordsman) one with block(pikeman)and one with dodge(fencer) and one with Acuity(TKA). Now, on the ranged side there are 4 classesthere is one with block(rifleman) one with dodge(pistoleer) and one with counterattack(carbine) and NONE with acuity. So, i have 2 points


1. Why doesnt SL get some group def Acuity?


2. Why the hell did TKA get it in the first place the class is already uber beyond all count and now this? That and this would be a nice unique ability for the struggling SL class.


I don't get to read the SL forum much so if this has been mentioned then just call me a noob flame me and forget about it.


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Awon
Wed Dec 17, 2003 8:45 am
#2

Befor you open your mouth do some research def acuity dous not stack with any other mod such as counter attack/dodge/block im a master fencer a master tka and close to master pistolneer for more dodge. When i used unarmed i do not dodge at all but when i have a fencer weapon i dodge like hell. Also its broken. They are still the gods of duels but as far as dodge/counterattack/block they cant do **edit** compared to a fencer/pikeman/ or heavy swordsman. Also there are only 3 range profession dumbass the other line just helps marksmen. Sl is not a combat class it is all about group leading and sence defence acuity only works on unarmed weapons it wouldnt help the class.
cydonia
Wed Dec 17, 2003 9:23 am
#3






Awon wrote:
Befor you open your mouth do some research def acuity dous not stack with any other mod such as counter attack/dodge/block im a master fencer a master tka and close to master pistolneer for more dodge. When i used unarmed i do not dodge at all but when i have a fencer weapon i dodge like hell. Also its broken. They are still the gods of duels but as far as dodge/counterattack/block they cant do **edit** compared to a fencer/pikeman/ or heavy swordsman. Also there are only 3 range profession dumbass the other line just helps marksmen. Sl is not a combat class it is all about group leading and sence defence acuity only works on unarmed weapons it wouldnt help the class.





Yes there are 3 ranged professions but the other one LEADS to SL That was my point


Next TKA gets ZERO dodge and ZERO counterattack and ZERO block but they have a skill that make them work better? explain to me HOW that means that they dont stack?


"They are still the gods of duels but as far as dodge/counterattack/block they cant do **edit** compared to a fencer/pikeman/ or heavy swordsman" didnt you read my post? I didnt say a TKA blocks better. I said a TKA WITH fencer and pikeman and heavy swordsman does.


"Sl is not a combat class it is all about group leading and sence defence acuity only works on unarmed weapons it wouldnt help the class" defence acuity only works with unarmed? NO it makes your block counterattack and dodge work more often and you get block counterattack and dodge from non-unarmed professions? and how would SL giveing everyone the ability to counter more often "wouldnt help the class" thats just dumb i think it would help alot.





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Awon
Thu Dec 18, 2003 12:44 am
#4

Ok read this correctly this time NO IT DOUSNT ENHANCE OTHER MODS LIKE DODGE/COUNTERATTACK/BLOCK FOR ANY OTHER MELEE CLASS SUCK AS FENCER/PIKEMEN/HS.It was meant to make the tka do all those things instead of only one of those things like a real martial artist but its broken so it dousnt do **edit** for tkas atm. So in fact i would dodge 50% of everything and a tka would dodge/couterattack/hs 48% of everything getting himself hit 52% of the time. This also depends on the amount of melee and range defence.
Fenrix
Fri Dec 19, 2003 4:19 am
#5

As a TK Master I find that defensive acuity does very little for me in terms of dodging blocking or counterattacking. (its supposed to be, we think, a combination of a 3). I can go long peroids of time without seeing any of these defensive moves trigger.


If you realy want to look at a nice defensive melee class I would suggest that you look at Fencer. But this is all besides the point. Many moons ago I played with the Squad leader class and found it fairly uninspiring but it obviously has potential. Some sort of defensive and offensive bonus's would be nice for the SL but I would seriously do some research about the various skills before crying foul.



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Slaitaar
Mon Jan 26, 2004 4:32 am
#6

Just checking, im 2 3 4 3 TKA so i think i have a DA bonus of 56 and it seems to work very infrequently maybe 1 in 20 hits, maybe less and even with CoB its only like 1/15 or so. Is this normal because last time I played (about 7 weeks ago) it was a broken skill?> Is it still in the process of being fixed or is it that im just not skilled enough?

My thanks for any replies in advance,



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Jherad
Mon Jan 26, 2004 7:43 am
#7

As far as I am aware, Defensive Acuity (and therefore CoB) is still broken.



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Vangreal
Mon Mar 22, 2004 9:28 am
#8

Anyone know exactly what this does? Just deciding where to put some combat xp, and it sounds like a cool skill do have, if I only knew what it did




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95M3
Mon Mar 22, 2004 10:04 am
#9

It has been tested by many to NOT work as written and the correspondent is asking for clarification.
Zydrigeon
Tue Mar 23, 2004 12:37 am
#10

Its supposed to be the TK's version of dodge/counterattack/block all in one. Problem is, it doesnt seem to work. Watch a fencer use Center of Being (which makes dodge for them better) and they are jumping around all over because CoB makes thier dodge better. Try CoB with TKM...you'll notice we dont dodge/block/counterattack much more than normal (which is not much). People say our CoB is broken, but its actually our Defense acuity that isnt working, so CoB obviously wont enhance it much. What's scary is, if it did work as it should, we'd just get even more "Nerf TK" cries. cant win for losing.


Zydrigeon, puppeteer of a tkm


Thyrd
Sun May 16, 2004 7:17 pm
#11

So what exactly does this do. I've heard dodge doesnt work unless you have a pistol or one handed sword in hand, block won't unless you have a polearm or rifle, same goes for 2hand swords and carbines with counter attack. does this allow us to do all three defensive moves unarmed? or does it make my aster pistoleer block that much better? is it broken? i dunno, maybe you do.


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Istin
Sun May 16, 2004 7:50 pm
#12

/flameblanket


You're gonna need it if this forum's anything like the smuggler forum.


Here's a hint, check out the other pages, I'm positive you're answer exists there.



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