Squad Leader Archive

There is really only one logical way to deal with it.
Replace the current hogwash meaningless combat dialogue from SL, and replace it with those informative commercials that enrich Coronet Starport so.

Okay, time for some clarification:

I had a very infromative (and long) PM discussion with Garva about this topic. He did not give me exressive permission to püost the conversation, so i won't (unless he shows up in here and grants me the right to do so).

But i can tell you what the outcome was (since it is not personal information).

The question i was curous about was: at what point does the use of SL abilities become a "disruption of gameplay"?

The answer is not as "obvious" as we would like to have it, but to put it in short: as long as you don't do it intentionally or while afk, you will not be punished for it. Not complying with orders from a CSR will get you punished, though, it the circumstances warrant it.

Garva also told me, that the CSR staff is indeed informed about the workings of the SL profession and know about the problems. The seriousness of the issue has been brought to SOEs attention, not only by the players, but the CSR staff as well.

Within the limits of their abilities, the CSRs will do what they can to help a SL in such a situation, but orders have to be followed first, before anything else can be done.

So, things not to do if you do not nat to get suspended or banned are:

-being afk (not only the tag above the head, but also not responding to tells)
-intentionally flooding SL commands to spam text messages across the public channels with the intent to disrupt gameplay for others.

As long as you don't do any of the above, you are perfectly safe.


Now, where i do believe the problem stems from, is not the abilities (wich queue themselves), but the yells associated with them, that do not queue up. Thus, spamming formup 10 times will have the formup ability go into the queue, but will instatly release 10 yells at once, with carry the potential to disrupt gameplay (close to TCP/IP stacking and PoD).

I would encourage everyone to put a .5 second pause into their Macros, to avoid spamming the yells like crazy.

I hope this helped clarify the issue.

Dogg

If you're wondering why people complain more about SL spamming than the merchants (or get in more trouble for it, at any rate), it's because the merchants are expected. I've never played an mmorpg without there being one town/building/area where the players would gather to shout messages about things they wanted to buy/sell, and making noise in general. The entire server population is aware that the coronet starport (or some other server-specific place) is where they're going to encounter this, and they expect it/prepare for it. A SL, however, is wandering all over the galaxy shouting in otherwise quiet areas. When you're talking to a friend more than 20km from any city, you expect them to hear you. An SL shouting commands every half-second makes that impossible; I've found very few things more irritating than a squad leader shouting commands so fast that you can't talk to anyone without switching to a spatial-free chat tab (and praying that everyone present has one, too).

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irott wrote:

Kosso,

The problem isnt in the fact that our profession has shouts to accompany many of our skills, its the fact that players find they need to spam/macro these commands. Once the CB and the SL revamp are underway, I will be working on removing the need to spam these commands and ultimatly a way to remove SL bots from the game. Until then though, players should continue to do what they do. No one has ever been banned/suspended for JUST spamming, there were other variables that got them to that point.

Just remember its the other players who submit these tickets to the CSRs to complain about the spam, the CSRs are just responding to the rest of the playerbase's anoyance (something I want to change, because I don't want anyone to be anoyed from just being around a SL.)

Just keep playing the way you play and try to respect other players.

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no irott i disagree with you wholeheartedly on this.

Ive been an SL as long as you have......and thats just BS.

They need to remove the shouts from the commands pure and simple and that will end all the problems of it. There is NO reason whatsoever that an SL should not be able to spam the same as every other profession in the game.

As i have said before the DEVS created this problem THEN never fixed it.....it should have been remedied MONTHS ago i seriously cant figure out why they had to sit on their ass and couldnt fix something as simple as removing the shout from SL commands.....or allowing them to be toggled off