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Thread: TC thoughts

captiansarcasmo
Thu Sep 08, 2005 8:20 am
#14






BadChef wrote:
A thought comes to mind here that if i were the shadey sort, I could sit at the landing platform on the avatar and spit out this and that while the group is out looting.





there are people who do that in live. and yes it will be ten times worse now.

Message Edited by captiansarcasmo on 09-08-2005 11:21 AM



jailyn

LiakyK
Thu Sep 08, 2005 9:11 am
#15






captiansarcasmo wrote:

wow i think this is that last place in the forum we can have a civil discussion. psssst don't tell anyone! hide!


we need current msl on tc. i know that some are working on it, it seems some of the others there haven't been sl since pre cu, they really don't know how it works currently so things aren't getting tested as much as tried if you know what i mean. when i first figured out i could buff someone outside the group, i said in spacial "uhh i can buff you out of my group?"


the response was "COOOL" not a good sign.





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Yeraze
Thu Sep 08, 2005 10:05 am
#16



captiansarcasmo wrote:
we need current msl on tc.





If they put the blue frogs, or enable some kind of character-copy on TC, count me in.

As it stands tho, I've got plenty to keep me busy on live. I'm not gonna grind a n00b out on TC with my 2 hours a day playtime. I'ld hit Novice SL right as they pushed it to live.



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Sylow
Thu Sep 08, 2005 10:08 am
#17

As long as the game crashes when people team up (and as long as i can't /respec to quickly push myself up to MSL) i don't see a way for me to do that. Grinding up to MSL all solo is just too boring and exhausting, i'm definitely not gonna do that...






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captiansarcasmo
Thu Sep 08, 2005 10:11 am
#18

it would go faster than you think. and this is only pre-publish. there will be another more important testing phase coming up right? for instance i was able to level up to tier 4 of ranged support (combat xp) in one good play period. dont even master. the thing is, at the rate things are going we could see this go live without ever testing 5 or 6 sl in one group.



jailyn

_scout_
Thu Sep 08, 2005 12:44 pm
#19

Sorry to bother you again,

I just remembered that /sys is still only working in the group if you are group leader, and when I remember right, there are some more skills too still tied to the groupleader ship.

Can you find out which ones those were and make a list of those?
My guess is, that it are the old ones, which got converted.

A lot of new squad leaders might get confused why some of their abilities wont work when they are grouped and not groupleader, since the orignial announcements said you dont need to be groupleader anymore at all.

As I currently see no reaction from the DEVs at all, rather than just starting two additional in focus threads, I fear we have to take whats on TC now as it is.

We ll have to be prepared to have answeres for the new breed of squad leaders, why somethings are the way they are, with or without the help of the DEVs.








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BlueGlowy
Thu Sep 08, 2005 2:01 pm
#20

"i think i'll just talk amongst myself for a while."



No no... for my part I wanted to add something as well, but couldn't figure out which of 17 threads to talk about TC-24 in. So, here you go:


I like the distribution of specials/buffs throughout the profession template. I think the distribution currently on TC is just fine as is, as I cannot really pick just one single 'tree' that has all the 'good' abilities/specials.


I'm a big fan of professions where each box gained really adds something. They've done this with the SL template on TC. Except in one area... group burst run efficiency (SL4xxx).


Currently, the progression is:


4: +25

3: --

2: +25

1: --


I think that's too 'chunky'. I'd like to see:


4: +15

3: +15

2: +10

1: +10


Or:


4: +10

3: +10

2: +10

1: +10

With the final +10 coming with the Master SL box.


Any concerns with either of these alternatives? Currently the 1xxx box just doesn't look as sexy as any of the other x111 boxes. Putting a +10 in there would appease my sense of order in the universe.

_scout_
Thu Sep 08, 2005 4:55 pm
#21


captiansarcasmo wrote:
...
what we should be most concerned with now, and things that can just NOT GO LIVE is the fact that i can:

1- buff from other planets

2- buff people outside my group

3- buff people and when they leave the group the buff sticks.

there are lots of other little game breakers in there, but if those three aren't changed our proffesion is screwed.






How was 2 possible?
You were able to buff ppl who were not grouped with you ?

And yes now after the fog has cleared with this ongoing SL - GL - multi SL pre group and Keldarin has posted his reasons for this change these 3 issues, which I hope are just bugs should never hit live otherwise SL will be messed up and exploited a lot till before they can hotfix it (and then probadly/possibley nerf it to uselessness).


Bug it as often as you can maybe post it also in the issues and bug thread to get the DEVs attention to this.

As essential the previous discussion is/was for the direction of the SL revamp, this is a serious flaw/bug in the game mechanics of the SL abilities.






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captiansarcasmo
Thu Sep 08, 2005 5:17 pm
#22






_scout_ wrote:

How was 2 possible?
You were able to buff ppl who were not grouped with you ?










yes i can apply the individual buffs to people outside of my group


if it was intended, the rational is probally the whole "you can be under the influence of a squadleader if your in his area" type thing we like these buffs have the same rules as doctor buffs factional status wise





jailyn

captiansarcasmo
Thu Sep 08, 2005 8:20 pm
#23



might as well post this here as well.



novice - general ranged accuracy +10, gen ranged speed +5, melee deffense +10, ranged d +10


mobility I - gen ranged acc +5


mobility II - group burst run +25


mobility III - gen ranged speed +5


mobility IV - group burst run eff +25


strategy I - melee d +10, ranged d +10


strategy II - melee d +10, ranged d +10


strategy III- melee d +10, ranged d +10


strategy IV - melee d +10, ranged d +10


leadership I - ranged d +5


leadership II - melee d +5


leadership III - ranged d +5


leadership IV - melee d +5


tactics I - gen ranged acc +5


tactics II - gen ranged acc +5


tactics III - gen ranged acc +5, gen ranged speed +5


tactics IV- gen ranged acc +5, gen ranged speed +5


Master Squad Leader - gen ranged acc +15, gen ranged speed +10, melee d +25, ranged d +20


NOTE!!! in each box there is a skill mod called "stat_n:[calledShot]" - none is granted at novice, +5 with each level I and level II box, +10 in level III boxes, and +15 in all level IV boxes. master squad leader grants you +35 to this awesome stat_n:[calledShot] ability.



enjoy


Message Edited by captiansarcasmo on 09-08-2005 11:22 PM

Message Edited by captiansarcasmo on 09-08-2005 11:27 PM



jailyn

captiansarcasmo
Fri Sep 09, 2005 7:22 am
#24

so, after yesterdays annoucements, i decided to log in to tc and mirror my character to my live toon. msl mdoc novCM, suddenly and too my shock, the tag above my head suddenly changed from master squadleader....


to Master Jedi Sidekick !!!


just wanted to let you know that MJS totally roxxorzzz





jailyn

LiakyK
Fri Sep 09, 2005 7:25 am
#25






captiansarcasmo wrote:

so, after yesterdays annoucements, i decided to log in to tc and mirror my character to my live toon. msl mdoc novCM, suddenly and too my shock, the tag above my head suddenly changed from master squadleader....


to Master Jedi Sidekick !!!


just wanted to let you know that MJS totally roxxorzzz







LOL



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to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out and loudly proclaiming: "WOW - What a ride!"
Loki_Ashaman
Fri Sep 09, 2005 7:36 am
#26






captiansarcasmo wrote:

so, after yesterdays annoucements, i decided to log in to tc and mirror my character to my live toon. msl mdoc novCM, suddenly and too my shock, the tag above my head suddenly changed from master squadleader....


to Master Jedi Sidekick !!!


just wanted to let you know that MJS totally roxxorzzz







Does this mean I am now my own best friend?




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