Squad Leader Archive

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DarthLithic wrote:
I was thinking that a special weapon, and some skills to use it would be a good idea. Since the Mobility tree is about dead, how about replacing it with a Heavy Weapon tree? like the squad heavy gunner position. Give us a cool new weapon, like a Squad Automatic Pulse Cannon. All the specials for this weapon could be AOE skills, like Area Bleed, or Area Leg shot. something like that. I can see my wookie standing at the read of the group formation, laying down NASTY covering fire for the squad, and helping each of my squad members with their individual targets. this way, I'm helping each of them defeat whatevers comming at them. Have the ability work only when grouped, but I think it's a good idea.

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I wouldn't mind having Squad support weapons aslong they deal a good amount of damage and has some kind of ablitiy to that when a person gets shot, they get a posture change *Would work wonders with Melee users *

Just my opinon

Flookmastah wrote:
yup this would be cool... but one word of warning: we couldn't have a powerful SL only weapon in only one skill tree. It would have to be at master, or require top tier skills in all 4 trees or else we would have dabblers come get the SL profession solely for the purpose of using these uber weapons and NOT to be actual leaders of a squad.

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I agree that putting a skill like this in one line will lead to the Creature Handler's folly that people just took that line. Now I know at one time this game was designed to skill dabble, but with the modification to CH ions ago and the recent update to merchant, I am not sure dabbling is considered okay

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irott wrote:

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My favorite of the ideas is the group state givers such as group bleed, and group stun or even group KD though I think that's asking too much. I did want to mention some other ideas I haven't heard yet that would be just as effective for support and yet not be considered overpowering:

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These are Carbineer specials... Chargeshot 2 is supposed to work as a AoE KD right now, but it is bugged. And we are working on getting action shot 2 as a AoE bleed (currently it bleeds your target but hits everything else around it in a cone, no bleed)

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That has to be the worse idea, group AOE... PVP should be based on tactics rather then the current type of pvp that supports classes that has the dizzy and Kd combo (Primary TK) and don't get me started with Carbiner... we barely land Dizzy with Full Auto and the change to knockdown someone with Charge Shot is lesser then a Tk KD

I love the idea of deployable battle structures (things like sandbags could be an extension of the scout/survival skill that SLs could make themselves, while more advanced structures like pillboxes or turrets would require a weapon smith and LZs could be built by shipwrights). Maybe that's getting too complicated? Just brainstorming here.

Another idea I've had is an SL specific combat capability. One that would not be particulary powerful, but would provide support capability for the group. Like military officers often carry a colt .45 sidearm, an SL should have some enhanced small firearm capability which would branch from the Marksman/Ranged Weapons Support prerequisite. More like combat control abilities than damaging abilities. Maybe just enhancements to suppression fire, aim, threaten and warning shot to make these playable abilities again (let's face it, few really use any of these aside from suppression fire).

Omin
Imperial Squad Leader
ShadowFire

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DarthLithic wrote:
I was thinking that a special weapon, and some skills to use it would be a good idea. Since the Mobility tree is about dead, how about replacing it with a Heavy Weapon tree? like the squad heavy gunner position. Give us a cool new weapon, like a Squad Automatic Pulse Cannon. All the specials for this weapon could be AOE skills, like Area Bleed, or Area Leg shot. something like that. I can see my wookie standing at the read of the group formation, laying down NASTY covering fire for the squad, and helping each of my squad members with their individual targets. this way, I'm helping each of them defeat whatevers comming at them. Have the ability work only when grouped, but I think it's a good idea.

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special group guns would be a great addition to the game, just not for squad leader....

commandos are the heavy hitters and should be the guys who deploy and use it.

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Strudle wrote:

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DarthLithic wrote:
I was thinking that a special weapon, and some skills to use it would be a good idea. Since the Mobility tree is about dead, how about replacing it with a Heavy Weapon tree? like the squad heavy gunner position. Give us a cool new weapon, like a Squad Automatic Pulse Cannon. All the specials for this weapon could be AOE skills, like Area Bleed, or Area Leg shot. something like that. I can see my wookie standing at the read of the group formation, laying down NASTY covering fire for the squad, and helping each of my squad members with their individual targets. this way, I'm helping each of them defeat whatevers comming at them. Have the ability work only when grouped, but I think it's a good idea.

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special group guns would be a great addition to the game, just not for squad leader....

commandos are the heavy hitters and should be the guys who deploy and use it.

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The proposal was never meant to allow SLs to use this themselves. Since the E-Web is a group weapon it kinda makes sense to give this to a profession that deals only with groups. Why would you give a weapon to a commando to use himself if it requires other players to set it up and use it?

It could even be as simple as: anyone could carry the parts required to set this thing up, but the SL has to be the group leader and activates a command that gives a special sort of waypoint to the team, and thats the only position the E-Web could be set up.

The E-Web is not a heavy weapon... it is a team weapon.

The E-web blaster is what in the army would call a crew served weapon.