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Thread: A complete price guide for selling faction

Raanan
Fri Mar 19, 2004 1:03 pm
#1






Let me start off by saying this is NOT a how to for selling fp. Dreven already has a killer guide to selling fp here. It even comes complete with a macro. What this is and should be considered as, is an addendum to Dreven's guide. What I'm laying out here is the price you pay for faction at each rank when you delegate it. In other words, the least amount you can charge at each rank without losing money.


As Dreven already laid out the faction at rank is broken down as follows:


  1. Private = 200 = 2,020 =6.5:1 (Costs 650 to send 100)

  2. Lance Corporal = 400 = 6,060 = 5.0:1 (Costs 500 to send 100)

  3. Corporal = 800 = 10,100 = 4.0:1 (Costs 400 to send 100)

  4. Staff Corporal = 1,200 = 14,140 = 3.34:1 (Costs334 to send 100)

  5. Sergeant = 1,600 = 18,180 = 2.86:1 (Costs286 to send 100)

  6. Staff Sergeant = 2,000 = 20,200 = 2.50:1 (Costs 250 to send 100)

  7. Master Sergeant = 2,500 = 25,250 = 2.3:1 (Costs 230 to send 100)

  8. Warrant Officer II = 3,000 = 30,300 = 2.0:1 (Costs 200 to send 100)

  9. Warrant Officer I = 3,500 = 35,500 = 1.8:1 (Costs 180 to send 100)

  10. Second Lieutenant = 4,000 = 40,400 = 1.67:1 (Costs 167 to send 100)

  11. First Lieutenant = 5,000 = 50,500 = 1.54:1 (Costs 154 to send 100)

  12. Army Captain = 5,000 = 50,500 = 1.43:1 (Costs 143 to send 100)

  13. Major = 5,500 = 55,550 = 1.33:1 (Costs 134 to send 100)

  14. Lieutenant Colonel = 5,500 = 55,550 = 1.25:1 (Costs 125 to send 100)

  15. Colonel = 6,000 = 60,600 = 1.18:1 (Costs 118 to send 100)

Now before I put my numbers down, I'm going to explain how I did it (in case I screwed up somewhere). Each ratio can be read as a percentage. 1.18:1 would read as 18%. The question is, what does the 1 stand for? Simply it stands for the amount of credits per faction point which is 80. So, to find the rates you can charge withour losing money is the percentage of 80 given by the ration added to 80. To find the percentage, you subract the equalities (1:1 is equal therefore an equality). That being said, here are my numbers.


key: rank =ratio = normal price = price if winning



  1. Private =6.5:1 = 520 = 470.99

  2. Lance Corpral =5.0:1 = 400 = 362.3

  3. Corpral =4.0:1 = 320 = 289.84

  4. Staff Corpral = 3.34:1 =267.2 = 242.02

  5. Sergeant =2.86:1 = 228.8 = 207.24

  6. Staff Sergeant =2.50:1 = 200 = 181.15

  7. Master Sergeant =2.3:1 = 184 = 166.66

  8. Warrent Officer II =2.0:1 = 160 = 144.92

  9. Warrent Officer I =1.8:1 = 144 = 130.43

  10. Second Lieutenant =1.67:1 = 133.6 = 121.01

  11. First Lieutenant =1.54:1 = 123.2 = 111.59

  12. Army Captain =1.43:1 = 114.4 = 103.62

  13. Major =1.33:1 = 106.4 = 96.37

  14. Lieutenant Colonel =1.25:1 = 100 = 90.58

  15. Colonel =1.18:1 = 94.4 = 85.5

Remember, all those number in blue are the price per ONE faction point. Also, it's only the bare minimum you can charge without losing credits. For a price to charge to make money, pick a percentage, multiply it by your base price and add the product to your base price. Personally, I'm going with a 25% profit margin for people I like, 35% for the average customer, and 50% for people I don't like. People I hate get a profit margin of 70% So the prices I'ld charge at Colonel are: 118 - 127 - 142 - 160. That's firendlies, neutrals, annoyances, and **edit** respectively.


Hope this is useful to someone.


Bah, I forgot to include the link to the how to Dreven has stickied. It's at http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=smuggler&message.id=49056Sorry for not making it a clickable link but the html editor always messes up my posts and I don't want to lose the formatting


Dreven pointed out something I wasn't aware of which has an effect on pricing. Apparently, if a side is winning the GCW you pay 10k for 138fp. For this reason, I'm adding a new column to the price list giving prices for that circumstance. Oh, and the price per fp in this situation is 72.46 rounded to the nearest hundreth.


Message Edited by Raanan on 03-18-2004 11:09 PM


Message Edited by Raanan on 03-19-2004 05:08 PM


Message Edited by Raanan on 07-05-2004 05:34 PM

Message Edited by Raanan on 07-05-2004 05:35 PM




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RazorBlade79
Fri Mar 19, 2004 1:49 pm
#2

>> # Sergeant = 1,600 = 18,180 = 2.86:1 (Costs 300 to send 100)

Shouldn't have copied it directly

What's right, 2.86:1 or 3:1? I always wondered ...

Otherwise a nice addition to the guide. I got to reconsider selling at 100 credits when reaching colonel heh



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Raanan
Fri Mar 19, 2004 4:22 pm
#3

Ooh, nice catch, Razor. I never noticed that before. I'ts probably 286 to send 1 as the non whole numbers tend to be the correct ones in SWG for some reason...




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DrevenStrobe
Fri Mar 19, 2004 4:33 pm
#4

it's 2.86:1


someone pointed that out to me when I still had it listed at 3:1. I changed the ratio and just forgot to change the example.


It's fixed now though.





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DrevenStrobe
Fri Mar 19, 2004 4:35 pm
#5

Nice price guide btw...but...


You forgot one thing. Your guide works if you're losing the GCW. But if you're winning the GCW, you get 138 points for 10k creds...which means your prices will be lower.





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Raanan
Fri Mar 19, 2004 6:49 pm
#6

Hmm, I wasn't aware of that. Guess I'll have to make another edit and include those prices

Made the update. There's a nice new green column to the price guide

Message Edited by Raanan on 03-19-2004 05:40 PM




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cshauny
Fri Mar 19, 2004 11:16 pm
#7

Yup, Sergeant is at 2.86:1. I pointed that out to Dreven because I once delegate 20k FP to a customer when I was at Sergeant and that was the delegation ratio.

You've really got to love customers who are willing to pay 300 cr/FP for 20k worth of FP



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Raanan
Fri Mar 26, 2004 11:26 am
#8

Didn't want this to get lost in the netherworlds of old posts so I'm bumping it. Would be cool if it got stickied or Dreven added the number chart to his selling faction point guide. Doesn't matter, I just don't want the info getting lost as I believe it's helpful to alot of people, me included.




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DrevenStrobe
Fri Mar 26, 2004 11:31 am
#9

Still need somebody to test Corporal and Staff Corporal. I honestly don't think there's any way that both of those have the same ratio.



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Raanan
Fri Mar 26, 2004 8:13 pm
#10

I'm a pretty lowly rebel right now so I can doit. I think I just got corpral the other day also




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Isakotl
Fri Aug 27, 2004 5:35 am
#11

Thank you Raanan! I actually enjoy doing the math in this game to figure out the best deals and what not. But this fp for profit stuff was driving me crazy. Thanks for taking my headache away.





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