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Thread: Concusion shot and panic shot

BigLizard29
Sat Oct 08, 2005 4:10 am
#1

You get hit with concusion, it wears off and you have anger. Now I was under the impression that anger kept you from getting dazed again. However I was in a battle where I was imediately stuck with a panic shot after the concusion wore off. And as soon as the panic shot wore off, the concusion was imediately applied.


Working as intended?



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Mystique2000uk
Sat Oct 08, 2005 9:48 am
#2


Yep this has either been stealth nerfed or it bugged. Its great in PVE as you can keep mobs mezed but it sucks in pvp as you can keep players mezed bt chaining the two.


You are supposed to be able to use panic shot and then use concusion shot as panic shot only leads to anger which doesnt prevent concusion shot because its a high lvl mez. But it looks to me like rage is bugged and doesnt work at the moment you cant chain con shot but you can alternate between the two.


This realy needs to be added to the issue list, but who want to give it up in PVE.


Message Edited by Mystique2000uk on 10-08-2005 05:50 PM



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Dark_Jedi88
Sat Oct 08, 2005 1:37 pm
#3

Actually, this is no bug. My brother and I had noticed it the other day, and did some testing with it.

When the concussion shot, which does not let you take action or move, wears off after 40 seconds, you go into a Rage for 30 seconds. Holding the cursor over the icon, it says that you are protected against daze effects. But you know this, right?

Now comes panic shot, which resticts only action not movement. When it wears off after about 22 seconds, you go into an Anger, which lasts for 20 seconds. When holding the cursor over it, it says that it will protect you against MINOR daze effects.

To me, this means that all is working as intented.



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Mystique2000uk
Sat Oct 08, 2005 3:20 pm
#4














Dark_Jedi88 wrote:


When the concussion shot, which does not let you take action or move, wears off after 40 seconds, you go into a Rage for 30 seconds. Holding the cursor over the icon, it says that you are protected against daze effects.




Sorry to disagree with you but you just said it right there, you should not be able to put panic shot on when your targethasRage, as this is a daze effect, BUT YOU CAN. This is a bug, You are correct in saying if you put panic shot on first and then get Anger you can and should be able to put con shot on, this is because con shot is a Daze and Root.


According to the descriptions on the states and also the DEV post when this was introduced you should not be able to use any daze efect when the mob has Rage. They did this to stop chain mezing.


It's Rage that is bugged not Anger. Anger is working as intended Rage is not.


The original poster was confused. The Anger State follows the Panic shot, The Rage State follows the concusion shot. He was right though when he said he was panic shot right after a concusion shot wore offand he had Rage, (He called it Anger but the two icons are very similar) As stated above this should not be posible but is at the moment. It's a bug and it came in around publish 20 I think. Rage and Anger were working as intended right after they were introduced, but were broken shortly after.

I aint complaining though because it makes runs on the Avatar and the Black Scale Compund a posible with a coupl eof good smugglers and some combat guys.

Message Edited by Mystique2000uk on 10-08-2005 11:32 PM



We're Charley Brown, the Dev's are lucy and the Smuggler revamp is the football.
Every time we think, this is the time were gona get to kick the football Lucy pulls it away at the last minute.



I only have one thing to say aauugghh!
BigLizard29
Sat Oct 08, 2005 4:05 pm
#5

I always like to marvel how normal professions are often more efficient then their jedi counterpart. My friend who had stasis was getting very pissed off that he couldn't chain mez like that. :/



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HOTDOG
Sat Oct 08, 2005 4:14 pm
#6






BigLizard29 wrote:


Working as intended?






I hate that goddamned question.






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Dark_Jedi88
Sat Oct 08, 2005 4:49 pm
#7


Mystique2000uk wrote:


Dark_Jedi88 wrote:


When the concussion shot, which does not let you take action or move, wears off after 40 seconds, you go into a Rage for 30 seconds. Holding the cursor over the icon, it says that you are protected against daze effects.



Sorry to disagree with you

Not a problem, as I disagree with you.

but you just said it right there,

I said it protects against daze effects, true. Read on, though, and you'll see that I consider Panic Shot a Minor Daze, and that it should not should not be affected. A whole different attack, if you will, and that the system is different also.

you should not be able to put panic shot on when your target has Rage, as this is a daze effect, BUT YOU CAN. This is a bug,

That is your opinion.

You are correct in saying if you put panic shot on first and then get Anger you can and should be able to put con shot on, this is because con shot is a Daze and Root.

According to the descriptions on the states and also the DEV post when this was introduced you should not be able to use any daze efect when the mob has Rage. They did this to stop chain mezing.

It's Rage that is bugged not Anger. Anger is working as intended Rage is not.

The original poster was confused. The Anger State follows the Panic shot, The Rage State follows the concusion shot. He was right though when he said he was panic shot right after a concusion shot wore off and he had Rage, (He called it Anger but the two icons are very similar) As stated above this should not be posible but is at the moment. It's a bug and it came in around publish 20 I think. Rage and Anger were working as intended right after they were introduced, but were broken shortly after.

I aint complaining though because it makes runs on the Avatar and the Black Scale Compund a posible with a coupl eof good smugglers and some combat guys.

Message Edited by Mystique2000uk on 10-08-200511:32 PM





So, of course, it's up to your point of view.

(Edit: It's not that I don't understand where your coming from, it's just that I don't agree with your standpoint. )

Message Edited by Dark_Jedi88 on 10-08-2005 05:54 PM



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Dark_Jedi88
Sat Oct 08, 2005 4:50 pm
#8


HOTDOG wrote:


BigLizard29 wrote:
Working as intended?



I hate that goddamned question.





Welcome back, HOTDOG.



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