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Thread: I'm thinking about going BH/pistols and dropping TKM/MP/MS... Jedi/smuggler hunting!

Ternque01
Tue Jun 29, 2004 5:40 pm
#1

I am thinking of either:


BH 3/0/4/0

PISTLMASTER

RIFLM0/4/4/4


It gives all defense vs *states* of +50, ranged mitigation 3, +87 melee defense, and +77 ranged defense.


or....


BH 3/0/4/0

PISTL MASTER

TK 0/4/0/0


It gives decent defenses vs *states* (about the same but with +70 knockdown), ranged mitigation 3, melee mitigation 2, +49 melee defense, +22 ranged defense.



The first template is very very nice, but doesn't have melee mitigation 2 or +70 KD defense, but i feel that the +87 melee defense would really really make up for the lack of melee mitigation. I can finally rule in PvP (one on one with low level Jedi) and don't have to worry about the sickening (literally) effect of combat medics in this game.



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HOTDOG
Tue Jun 29, 2004 5:53 pm
#2

Hmmmmm...

So You're jumping the fence, eh?

I was thinking of a MS/BH combo that would definitely involve the LLC line- don't know if I want to Hunt Bounties as much as I love being a smuggler but I am sure there is someway to do both on some level.

One thing though- for as many Jedi variations out there we are now going to see a sh!t load more of BHs hunting them.


SWG just got VERY interesting.






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ruehs
Tue Jun 29, 2004 5:56 pm
#3






HOTDOG wrote:
Hmmmmm...

So You're jumping the fence, eh?

I was thinking of a MS/BH combo that would definitely involve the LLC line- don't know if I want to Hunt Bounties as much as I love being a smuggler but I am sure there is someway to do both on some level.

One thing though- for as many Jedi variations out there we are now going to see a sh!t load more of BHs hunting them.


SWG just got VERY interesting.





yes it has, yes it has



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Broken_Smuggler
Tue Jun 29, 2004 6:06 pm
#4

Im considering a similar template. I love smuggler, but with the fixes so far away, I just want to make my toon fun to play for its remaining time in game. I know that pistols are gimped too... but I find them fun to play with, and nothing is more fun than beating someone with a weapon they werent expecting to lose to. I think Im going to drop tkm and most of smuggler and do the Master Pistoleer/Dirty Fighting/BH Pistols template. Im not sure yet If I should do Investigation 3 or Novice Commando, but it should be fun regardless.



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Maccus
Tue Jun 29, 2004 6:13 pm
#5

Dont go BH You cant even hunt the jedi and when you do find them they waste your sorry behind Quickly.

I just dropped MP & BH pistol 4 now im going MP MS MTK. Do do it youll regret it I promise.



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JTGAlpha
Tue Jun 29, 2004 6:16 pm
#6

What? TERNQUE! NO! You little turncoat! How can you even consider it??!! Don't go all FotM on me man...come ON! We NEED you here, buddy! Et tu you brute?



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DrevenStrobe
Tue Jun 29, 2004 7:12 pm
#7

With the announcement of the new prereqs, this opens up a few new combos...


How about:


Master Smuggler

Pistoleer 0/4/0/4

BH0/0/4/0


Great for speed and accuracy.


Or


Master Smuggler

Pistoleer 0/0/4/4

BH 0/0/3/0


For speed and additional specials


Or


Master Smuggler

Pistoleer 0/4/4/0

BH 0/0/3/0


For accuracy and additional specials


Notice I'm keeping Master Smuggler and some of my Pistoleer intact...



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Ternque01
Tue Jun 29, 2004 8:47 pm
#8






JTGAlpha wrote:

What? TERNQUE! NO! You little turncoat! How can you even consider it??!! Don't go all FotM on me man...come ON! We NEED you here, buddy! Et tu you brute?







Even if I leave the profession in-game, i'm not gonna leave smuggler here. It's about time I get nasty. GCW PvP has left a very very bad taste in my mouth. I'm tired of dying to CM's time and time and time again. The combat imbalance now is just too much for me too take. I invest millions in skill tapes, armor attachments, guns, foods, armor, spices.. hell you name it just to get mowed down time and time again. I always travel with doctors to heal me in PvP (even use teamspeak to immediately call for cures), drink two doses of brandy, and get dual mind buffs, and nothing, nothing stops a good enemy team with a CM that knows what he/she's doing. What kills is how much unavoidable and unhealable damage occurs because of these poisons. Even a team with 25% doctors can keep up with a CM that eats havla.


With havla CM's can throw area poisons/diseases very close to the speed cap.


I was thinking of changing my template to Doctor/Pistoleer/DF smuggling or maybe CM/Pistoleer just to survive PvP. It's rediculous. I'm tired and angry of it. By choosing the template above I get many many things that I currently want. I get to keep pistols, and I can actually enjoy the thrill of hunting someone down and kill them to make up for all the needless times I've died. I'm getting nasty.


When I kill a Jedi, it isn't going to be because of an exploiting CM chucking poisons mercilessly. When I kill the Jedi I will have somehow satiated that urge in me to attack something. This comes off as neurotic, but I don't care. I'm tired of being owned by a medical class despite rigorous methods I take to counter them. When I kill a Jedi I will taste how good it is to actually use my wits and everything I have in a fight to survive and not have to die at a distance from my enemy flopping like a fish until I triple incap on the battlefield. Whenever I killa Jedi, that knot in my stomach I have for our combat system will get a little weaker... mark by mark by mark.


I want some honor in my battles. Whatever is happening in current PvP is definitely far, far from it.


Again if I come off as neurotic I appologize. I'm not going Flavor of the Month. I'm going Flavor of the Me.


I have a master smuggler/master pistoleer on test center. I am in no way leaving here. This is my home!




Axob Freelight
The non-Jedi are extinct. Their fire has gone out of the universe.
Ternque01
Tue Jun 29, 2004 8:54 pm
#9






Maccus wrote:

Dont go BH You cant even hunt the jedi and when you do find them they waste your sorry behind Quickly.

I just dropped MP & BH pistol 4 now im going MP MS MTK. Do do it youll regret it I promise.







From what I hear the Bounty terminals are FULL of jedi missions right now. Also if you stack DoTs on the health pool, a padawan is pretty vulnerable to that. Besides paying 15k a mission, I don't care. I get to hunt them down and get some PvP that doesn't entirely.. for a better word suck!


I think I might see what happens in the next few days with the Jedi missions before I switch over. I want a good, challenging fight. I've put 100% into meeting the challenges of current PvP and I don't think even a TKM/MP/MS could properly protect themself. Only (insert combat profession)/Docs can survive. I won't go rifle and I really detest melee. That would leave carbines/doc or pist/doc, and both of them cant deal any damage in PvP.


And even this way I will get to efficiently fight with a weapon that I've dreamed of actually being able to use.. the pistol. See the link in my sig on my tactics to "survive" in PvP as a pistoleer




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The non-Jedi are extinct. Their fire has gone out of the universe.
JediArashi
Tue Jun 29, 2004 8:55 pm
#10

Well at least you won't leave the forums...but you gotta promise to come back for the revamp!! Do it!! Do it, or else we will come to your house and tie your testicles to your earlobes and make watch the dancing wookie for 72 hours until you cave!!!


Ok, so that's not likely to happen, but we'd really like you to stick around...hey look, even Drevonstrobe reactivated just for you!! All for you, he told me., yup, he did. Don't dissapoint now.


-Arashi

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Ternque01
Tue Jun 29, 2004 10:09 pm
#11






JediArashi wrote:

Well at least you won't leave the forums...but you gotta promise to come back for the revamp!! Do it!! Do it, or else we will come to your house and tie your testicles to your earlobes and make watch the dancing wookie for 72 hours until you cave!!!


Ok, so that's not likely to happen, but we'd really like you to stick around...hey look, even Drevonstrobe reactivated just for you!! All for you, he told me., yup, he did. Don't dissapoint now.


-Arashi

Bloodfin







Awww! Not the puppy dog eyes!!!! I'm helluva glad Dreven's sticking around! I have two loves in this game.. PvP and being a dirty criminal. I want to be the scum that is a residue on everyone. Smugglers don't smuggle now, but I have ALOT of faith that they will. Our revamp is going to kick major ass.


I can't wait 3-4-5 months for it. PvP for me has died in a way, and I want it back with a passion. With my skill tapes and with the template above, I will have +175 pistol accuracy. All I have to do is eat good accuracy food and I will have up to +215 pistol accuracy. Only TKM can kill jedi on test center because of their insane accuracy. TKM's have 205 unarmed accuracy at master...I will have 215. That is assuming that the high accuracy is why TKM can actually hit them!


How long have I waited till pistoleer actually was more than a joke in PvP? A long time have I waited. Now I can seize the day! Run like the wind! With the +137 pistol speed i'll have I will dual wield two DE-10's and pound the living hell out of anything that moves. Pure pistoleers are so gimped for speed. Riflemen shoot faster than we do


Smuggler isn't paying my bills, I need a new job. For now I'm gonna stop being a criminal and start being a whole new kinda scum. I'll be back later as a new person when I smuggle for I cannot stop growing, but for now I must attack!

Message Edited by Ternque01 on 06-30-2004 01:43 AM



Axob Freelight
The non-Jedi are extinct. Their fire has gone out of the universe.
RazorBlade79
Wed Jun 30, 2004 12:13 pm
#12


Ternque01 wrote:


Maccus wrote:
Dont go BH You cant even hunt the jedi and when you do find them they waste your sorry behind Quickly.
I just dropped MP & BH pistol 4 now im going MP MS MTK. Do do it youll regret it I promise.



From what I hear the Bounty terminals are FULL of jedi missions right now. Also if you stack DoTs on the health pool, a padawan is pretty vulnerable to that. Besides paying 15k a mission, I don't care. I get to hunt them down and get some PvP that doesn't entirely.. for a better word suck!

I think I might see what happens in the next few days with the Jedi missions before I switch over. I want a good, challenging fight. I've put 100% into meeting the challenges of current PvP and I don't think even a TKM/MP/MS could properly protect themself. Only (insert combat profession)/Docs can survive. I won't go rifle and I really detest melee. That would leave carbines/doc or pist/doc, and both of them cant deal any damage in PvP.

And even this way I will get to efficiently fight with a weapon that I've dreamed of actually being able to use.. the pistol. See the link in my sig on my tactics to "survive" in PvP as a pistoleer






First you can get Jedi missions all the time but that's not the problem. The droids are bugged and you can't FIND them in the first place. Only way if to search for Jedi at Starports and then try to get a mission on them.

Second, if you have a mission and find the Jedi, you will still lose. Read the BH forums. Only melee professions are able to at least deal damage because Jedi don't block melee (like they block 99% of ranged attacks.)



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