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Thread: BAH! For Those Wondering About the Commando Before Smuggler Thing...
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NickHeel
Fri Sep 30, 2005 10:48 am
#1
/advancedPitchForkSharpen
/improvedTorchLighting
Like, you knew it was happening. Aggrivation. That's all I can say. Aggri'f***in'vation.
NickHeel
Fri Sep 30, 2005 10:54 am
#2
Oh, and for anyone saying that this doesn't mean anything...yeah, you just keep saying that until it's February 2006 and Jedi Revamp #2 is starting up and we're still waiting.
You late 2004 people that came with JTL or even RotW this year and think you've been waiting a long time...from Day1(2) Smuggler...You need to read through "The History" again. You want to tell me to move on? It's grizzled old dogs like me and Fish and Ternque and others that kept this profession from going dead like some others.
And for anyone that argues about Commandos coming before us is needed? Well, I got no beef with them getting anything...or a revamped tree. That's cool. But I have been tagged along for 2.5 years now with numerous carrotsand I'm ready for something. Put me at the front of the line and get me out of the way. Then go screw around with whatever you want.
Yeah, I used to be nice and patient and everything. But now, just give me what I want and get me out of your hair. I'm tired of this.
NickHeel
Fri Sep 30, 2005 11:40 am
#3
Gah...this is what happens. I warn. I say something and everyone goes against me or goes quiet. Then it hits the fan and everyone whines.
I'm going to St. Louis.
I hate the new Smuggler forum. You've got no fight, no willpower, no motivation to do anything. This forum is dead any more. I guess you all are too busy in game NOT Smuggling.
WesBelden
Fri Sep 30, 2005 1:52 pm
#4
I've gotta say I don't think it's as bad as you're making out.. I mean, sure, Commando have a developer posting in their forum asking what's wrong with their profession.. but there's a whole team of designers, not all of which have their head in the expansion.
If this were some In Development post detailing a revamp, I'd be reaching for the cattle prod, but it's not, it's a developer asking, "What's the most broken out of your broken things?"
I'm not arguing for Commando coming first (hell I'm the Smuggler correspondent, I want us first and foremost), but I'm also not annoyed that another profession has a developer looking at them.
We have Smuggler missions schedualed tentatively to arrive in November and if there aren't any, there's going to be hell to pay, both on these boards and presumabley (hopefully) in the gaming press. I don't see Commandos being asked what bugs need fixing the most as a precursor or even indication that Mr. Morning Star is going to have his home handed over.
If this were some In Development post detailing a revamp, I'd be reaching for the cattle prod, but it's not, it's a developer asking, "What's the most broken out of your broken things?"
I'm not arguing for Commando coming first (hell I'm the Smuggler correspondent, I want us first and foremost), but I'm also not annoyed that another profession has a developer looking at them.
We have Smuggler missions schedualed tentatively to arrive in November and if there aren't any, there's going to be hell to pay, both on these boards and presumabley (hopefully) in the gaming press. I don't see Commandos being asked what bugs need fixing the most as a precursor or even indication that Mr. Morning Star is going to have his home handed over.
Ibin_Nawtee
Fri Sep 30, 2005 1:57 pm
#5
Now that is something to look forward.
Pesamistic as I am, I am hopefull.
VegitoX
Fri Sep 30, 2005 2:45 pm
#6
Wait...
Hold on...
Smuggling missions in November eh?
We'll see.
LM
Fri Sep 30, 2005 2:54 pm
#7
WesBelden wrote:
I've gotta say I don't think it's as bad as you're making out.. I mean, sure, Commando have a developer posting in their forum asking what's wrong with their profession.. but there's a whole team of designers, not all of which have their head in the expansion.
If this were some In Development post detailing a revamp, I'd be reaching for the cattle prod, but it's not, it's a developer asking, "What's the most broken out of your broken things?"
I'm not arguing for Commando coming first (hell I'm the Smuggler correspondent, I want us first and foremost), but I'm also not annoyed that another profession has a developer looking at them.
We have Smuggler missions schedualed tentatively to arrive in November and if there aren't any, there's going to be hell to pay, both on these boards and presumabley (hopefully) in the gaming press. I don't see Commandos being asked what bugs need fixing the most as a precursor or even indication that Mr. Morning Star is going to have his home handed over.
Hi Wes -- I've been away for a few days and have been trying to catch up. Do we REALLY have smuggler missions scheduled tentatively for November? I didn't see where we received official confirmation about that. All I ever saw from an SOE employee was on another site and it was a rather carefully worded statement form Julio (I think) that said "players can enjoy new content..." in answer to aninterviewer's specific question regarding Smuggling.
So -- as the official SOE Smuggler Correspondent, can you confirm that Smuggling missions are tentatively scheduled for release in November?
If so, wow, and it must be hitting TC soon if they are coming out with it in November -- the end of which is only 8 weeks away.
Oh, and another question: will we have to buy the upcoming glowy-wan-kenobi expansion in order to be able to Smuggle?
Thanks!
Rogue135
Fri Sep 30, 2005 3:45 pm
#8
WesBelden wrote:
I've gotta say I don't think it's as bad as you're making out.. I mean, sure, Commando have a developer posting in their forum asking what's wrong with their profession.. but there's a whole team of designers, not all of which have their head in the expansion.
If this were some In Development post detailing a revamp, I'd be reaching for the cattle prod, but it's not, it's a developer asking, "What's the most broken out of your broken things?"
I'm not arguing for Commando coming first (hell I'm the Smuggler correspondent, I want us first and foremost), but I'm also not annoyed that another profession has a developer looking at them.
We have Smuggler missions schedualed tentatively to arrive in November and if there aren't any, there's going to be hell to pay, both on these boards and presumabley (hopefully) in the gaming press. I don't see Commandos being asked what bugs need fixing the most as a precursor or even indication that Mr. Morning Star is going to have his home handed over.
I'm with Wes on this one, just because I think that the Devs really need to start being a bit more interactive with the community. Every profession should have posts asking "What can we do to make the game more enjoyable for you?".
WesBelden
Fri Sep 30, 2005 3:55 pm
#9
Unfortunately, no, I'm going off of what Mr. Torres said... but seriously, if Smuggling isn't seen to be well on the way to being done by and during November, we're all going to be pissed right? I know I for one will be. Not at the developers by the way (especially not at Tiggs
LM wrote:
So -- as the official SOE Smuggler Correspondent, can you confirm that Smuggling missions are tentatively scheduled for release in November?
), but specifically at Torres. I have a hunch that we'll see something though, but like I said, I'm gonna be more than annoyed if nothing comes of it.
LM wrote:
Oh, and another question: will we have to buy the upcoming glowy-wan-kenobi expansion in order to be able to Smuggle?Thanks!
Heck no! btw, FYI, from what I've seen of it (in game) it looks very nice (and in no way is that affected for the, "I want my YT-2400!!" mentality I may or may not be in).
/shifty
Blackmoore
Fri Sep 30, 2005 4:49 pm
#10
Not to be an ass, but how many other professions after Commando need to be fixed?
It should be soon!
WesBelden wrote:
Unfortunately, no, I'm going off of what Mr. Torres said... but seriously, if Smuggling isn't seen to be well on the way to being done by and during November, we're all going to be pissed right? I know I for one will be. Not at the developers by the way (especially not at Tiggs
LM wrote:
So -- as the official SOE Smuggler Correspondent, can you confirm that Smuggling missions are tentatively scheduled for release in November?
LM wrote:
Oh, and another question: will we have to buy the upcoming glowy-wan-kenobi expansion in order to be able to Smuggle?
Thanks!
Heck no! btw, FYI, from what I've seen of it (in game) it looks very nice (and in no way is that affected for the, "I want my YT-2400!!" mentality I may or may not be in).
/shifty
RyFord
Fri Sep 30, 2005 5:47 pm
#11
As a Smuggler Commando I am hoping that Commando is addressed first as I have received a Slicing Update and my specials are the most effective Crowd Control Specials in the game. Accompanied with Commando and it is devastating against a Crowd.
Commando really has received nothing in those 2.5 years except one nerf at the beginning.Smuggler at least has an EXTREMELY VIABLE role in combat right now and any group running without ibe us a group of idiots.
Commando AOE doesn't even work. They have no shot to do any damage withexcept RangedShot.
Iawo
Fri Sep 30, 2005 6:58 pm
#12
This one's a little on edge isn't he? Man, they are just asking the commandos what three things they really want fixed. They can still have one or two guys work on that while the rest of the team did other things. As far as smuggler missions? I'm not even going to worry about it until they start an "in development" as I've seen "in concept" disappear without a trace one too many times now. Also, man... commando is borked. It really needs fixing bad. Smuggler needs content, commando needs FIXED. Two differernt situations, that could possibly be done at the same time even. Take a chill pill for a bit, too early to get upset.
Message Edited by Iawo on 09-30-2005 08:59 PM
Duedroth
Fri Sep 30, 2005 7:30 pm
#13
Nick,
Take a look to the left
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I didn't know about the forums for a while after I started playing the game, I was in game before that registration date.
Now look down. Nathan was my very first character. He's been Smuggler or progressing toward Smuggler since the day I loaded SWG onto my PC (already established as the first day of retail).
I understand the sentiment. I'm angry. I'm frustrated. I'm upset.
I agree with you.
BUT, at the same time, I applaud them for going through the professions which are actually broken and making fixes. Rangers, Squad Leaders, Creature Handlers, Commandoes. Smugglers are In Concept again (as if that actually means anything, but it's a bit of hope).
I think changes are trickling down, and we'll see what we want. I'm glad that needy professions are getting loving.
BUT SMUGGLER IS NEEDY TOO!!!!!!!!
Take a look to the left
<-------------
I didn't know about the forums for a while after I started playing the game, I was in game before that registration date.
Now look down. Nathan was my very first character. He's been Smuggler or progressing toward Smuggler since the day I loaded SWG onto my PC (already established as the first day of retail).
I understand the sentiment. I'm angry. I'm frustrated. I'm upset.
I agree with you.
BUT, at the same time, I applaud them for going through the professions which are actually broken and making fixes. Rangers, Squad Leaders, Creature Handlers, Commandoes. Smugglers are In Concept again (as if that actually means anything, but it's a bit of hope).
I think changes are trickling down, and we'll see what we want. I'm glad that needy professions are getting loving.
BUT SMUGGLER IS NEEDY TOO!!!!!!!!
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