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Thread: Petition for answers.

SmugglinZane
Sat Sep 17, 2005 9:02 am
#1





I never thought I'd do this. Petitionson the forumwere/are something that get little support from the dev team.


What I ask is this. Please refrain from discussion. Please refrain from flaming. Please post questions you have in addition to mine. Please post the date you will be cancelling your subscription if you do not get these answers.


1. Why has Smuggler been told they cannot get a revamp when the dev team has now revamped 4 professions?


2. When can we expect to see Smuggler missions? We were named as the first of a few professions to take priority with development following the CU, and we are still waiting.


3. Will the slicing system ever recieve further development to become something challenging and fun, something like what was originally proposed?


4. With the new changes to Ranger allowing underhanded dealings between players (stealing), does that mean we will see an in depth player dependant smuggling system?


5. When will you be implementing a newer, more meaningful contraband system where the illegal items of the galaxy actually carry some risk? There are many things this can be tied into, especially the GCW, and your short-sightedness and lack of development in this area is sickening.


6. Will you be implimenting more meaningful things to smuggle so that we are more like Smugglers and less like the drug dealers SWG currently makes us?


7. Will you be releasing your Nielson focus group results to the community? We would like to know what will become the next priority so that we can focus our discussions and requests to be in line with your new goals so that we may better achieve ours.


Courtesy of Aendracon:


8. Will Smuggling missions include any form of JTL content?


9. With spices becoming a non-craftable item, what skills will substitude the spice crafting skill tree?


10. Why are the rangers revamped towards being able to intercept Smuggler missions before such missions are available to the Smugglers in the first place?


11. Could you please sketch the relationship of Smugglers, Rangers and BHs in this system?



I'm leaving it at this right now because my remaining questions take a more antagonistic tone. I will add questions by other players as they are posted.


Remember, please only post to add your name and/or your questions to the list.

Message Edited by SmugglinZane on 09-19-2005 07:08 PM



"Jedi claims of being "broken" are like saying "But my TV isn't widescreen! It's broken! My TV can't show high-def pictures in 1080i, it can only do 720i! It's broken!" Meanwhile, crafters are saying "We'd really like to have a TV that's larger than 12" and gets more than 4 channels and doesn't constantly lose vertical control", and entertainers are saying "Can we get some color instead of this B&W piece of junk?" And smugglers? We're listening to radio programs of "The Shadow" and "The Abbot and Costello Comedy Hour" and hearing FDR's Fireside Chats. We don't even HAVE a damn TV, much less a broken one or a "broken" one by Jedi standards. I'd LOVE to be as "broken" as they are." - The Legendary Solo4114
WesBelden
Sat Sep 17, 2005 10:32 am
#2

TH is supposed to be taking questions from us in the correspondent forum about the proposed changes, so I'll pass these on along with the list compiled in the Smuggler In Concept thread.



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srotre
Sun Sep 18, 2005 10:00 am
#3

oh yea, no changes until bugs are wroked out. no new content? bump this one.!!!!



Srotre Tholer
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Halorin0009
Sun Sep 18, 2005 10:22 am
#4

I think to some extent I can answer #1.


A Smuggler revamp is nothing like, say, a Squad Leader revamp. I say this because Smugglers have so many different facets to them that it's really like developing 3 professions and at least 1 entirely new mission type in one shot. They'd have to redo Spice, Contraband, and the actual combat aspect to really do Smugglers justice. And then the actual Smuggling missions would need to go in. Compare this to say, reshuffling and adjusting the powers of a Squad Leader, and I think it's pretty easy to see that they are on two different levels of difficulty. I'd imagnie that in the grand scheme of things, SoE/LA found it better to try and get other things done before coming back to Smugglers, which sucks for Smugglers but I can at least understand why they did it.


Another thing to consider is player interdepedency. It seems to me like the Ranger revamp definitely opens doors for professions to mingle and mix with other ones. This leads me to believe that what we're seeing with these revamps and things are the groundwork for the new GCW that's on some pipeline that hasn't been publically mentioned. If they added in Smuggler missions a year ago, they'd most likely would be redoing it now to make sure these professions had a reason to talk to each other.


This is what I'm hoping is the case, but then again, it's SoE, the company that would rather look like jerks and incompetent workers than to lay their cards on the table and give us proper reasoning for what seems like bad decisions.



The NGE may be staying, but is SWG?
Aendracon
Mon Sep 19, 2005 2:35 am
#5


8. Will Smuggling missions include any form of JTL content?


9. With spices becoming a non-craftable item, what skills will substitude the spice crafting skill tree?


10. Why are the rangers revamped towards being able to intercept Smuggler missions before such missions are available to the Smugglers in the first place?


11. Could you please sketch the relationship of Smugglers, Rangers and BHs in this system?





Ryian Coron - Elder Smuggler
"do not assume your customers are morons. odds are they know a lot more about the situation than you do because they live with it every day. listen to them, actually listen, and take what they say into account. you might save some money, morons."
- Fernas
Stawei_Idow
Mon Sep 19, 2005 8:32 am
#6


Halorin0009 wrote:
A Smuggler revamp is nothing like, say, a Squad Leader revamp. I say this because Smugglers have so many different facets to them that it's really like developing 3 professions and at least 1 entirely new mission type in one shot. They'd have to redo Spice, Contraband, and the actual combat aspect to really do Smugglers justice. And then the actual Smuggling missions would need to go in. Compare this to say, reshuffling and adjusting the powers of a Squad Leader, and I think it's pretty easy to see that they are on two different levels of difficulty. I'd imagnie that in the grand scheme of things, SoE/LA found it better to try and get other things done before coming back to Smugglers, which sucks for Smugglers but I can at least understand why they did it.



I can see where your coming from, yet, they've had two years to figure it out, and here they are once again, asking for ideas.
They've asked for ideas what, 4-5 times and have always been inundated with them, then we hear 'sorry, we've got to do JTL/Jedi/CU/RotW/ToOW/FRS/GCW/etc first'.




Bug fixes. Heh! Smuggling. Heh! A Jedi craves not these things.

My SWG Observations

If they stopped the expansions for one year and gave quality revamps to the professions that need it most, many people would resubscribe.
With all the resubs, and the new players, there would then be plenty of money to hire enough people to do 2-4 quality revamps per year plus 1-2 larger expansions per year and/or 2-4 smaller expansions per year, and not give the BigWigs a pay cut. (Possibly even an increase)

Halorin0009
Mon Sep 19, 2005 9:00 am
#7

True. I never said it was okay, or fair. :\



The NGE may be staying, but is SWG?
Zeon_Zaku
Mon Sep 19, 2005 3:55 pm
#8






Aendracon wrote:


8. Will Smuggling missions include any form of JTL content?








This is my main question.



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SmugglinZane
Thu Sep 22, 2005 11:46 am
#9

Still looking for some answers since the HOC not only dodged a question about any kind of Smuggler revamp, but they said they're not planning on working on CC skills any time soon (you know, our combat skillsthat are nothing like they were supposed to be).



"Jedi claims of being "broken" are like saying "But my TV isn't widescreen! It's broken! My TV can't show high-def pictures in 1080i, it can only do 720i! It's broken!" Meanwhile, crafters are saying "We'd really like to have a TV that's larger than 12" and gets more than 4 channels and doesn't constantly lose vertical control", and entertainers are saying "Can we get some color instead of this B&W piece of junk?" And smugglers? We're listening to radio programs of "The Shadow" and "The Abbot and Costello Comedy Hour" and hearing FDR's Fireside Chats. We don't even HAVE a damn TV, much less a broken one or a "broken" one by Jedi standards. I'd LOVE to be as "broken" as they are." - The Legendary Solo4114
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