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Thread: Idea for a smuggler ability

boylazzy
Mon Jul 18, 2005 2:48 pm
#1

I do not know if this has been brought up, but here goes.....


I was thinking about the movies and in the first one (A New Hope), Han and the gang hide inside the Falcon's compartments. Han says something about the first time he smuggled himself or something to that effect.


A really simple way for smugglers to get some smuggling content would be to allow smugglers to slice city terminals to remove players from City Banned lists.


From an RP perspective, you could invision a smuggler paying off a crooked politician to let someone back into town after they have been kicked out.


There would have to be a high price associated with getting the person un-banned and the slice would have to occur at some interval similar to base vulnerability.


I think that this would be a great way to get smugglers some content and help all of the bounty hunters that have been banned from cities get back in to be able to hunt jedi.


Has this been mentioned before? Would this qualify as some content for us Smugglers?






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riotcontrol
Mon Jul 18, 2005 2:53 pm
#2

The way I see it, features like /cityban are in fact a sort of OOC tools which don't really have much to do with your actual characters. For more or less the same reason that stealing and similar things won't be endorsed by the very design of the game, this wouldn't work either. In a more developed system of IC-based rules, laws and consequences, it would, but the way the game is currently set up, it's a no-no.



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boylazzy
Mon Jul 18, 2005 3:02 pm
#3






riotcontrol wrote:
The way I see it, features like /cityban are in fact a sort of OOC tools which don't really have much to do with your actual characters. For more or less the same reason that stealing and similar things won't be endorsed by the very design of the game, this wouldn't work either. In a more developed system of IC-based rules, laws and consequences, it would, but the way the game is currently set up, it's a no-no.





Ok, assuming that I know all of your acronyms is a problem.


Aside from that, I am not talking about stealing, which is a far different issue in my opinion.


City Ban is used on players specifically for role playing reasons, especially bounty hunters. Yes, there are people that have been banned from cities for more personal reasons, but I think the smuggler profession would be well served by such and ability AND it does not prevent a city from banning that person again the next time they are caught in town.





Hocky Cheetos
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Vendor Waypoint -27, 6036 - Lok, just outside of Nym's
Under new management!

Knightcrest
Mon Jul 18, 2005 4:06 pm
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boylazzy wrote:





riotcontrol wrote:
The way I see it, features like /cityban are in fact a sort of OOC tools which don't really have much to do with your actual characters. For more or less the same reason that stealing and similar things won't be endorsed by the very design of the game, this wouldn't work either. In a more developed system of IC-based rules, laws and consequences, it would, but the way the game is currently set up, it's a no-no.





Ok, assuming that I know all of your acronyms is a problem.


Aside from that, I am not talking about stealing, which is a far different issue in my opinion.


City Ban is used on players specifically for role playing reasons, especially bounty hunters. Yes, there are people that have been banned from cities for more personal reasons, but I think the smuggler profession would be well served by such and ability AND it does not prevent a city from banning that person again the next time they are caught in town.







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Edited to get some foul language out... bypassed the filter



City Ban slicing would be a big no no. It would lead to more problems than it would benefits from griefing. Look at /citywarn and it has yet to be put back in because there is no way to prevent griefing. I don't want a scammer doing business in my city to benefit him/her/it in the least let alone give them a reason to come into the city to harass other citizens. That would be both IC and OOC.

Message Edited by Knightcrest on 07-18-2005 06:14 PM



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boylazzy
Mon Jul 18, 2005 4:36 pm
#5







Knightcrest wrote:







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Edited to get some foul language out... bypassed the filter



City Ban slicing would be a big no no. It would lead to more problems than it would benefits from griefing. Look at /citywarn and it has yet to be put back in because there is no way to prevent griefing. I don't want a scammer doing business in my city to benefit him/her/it in the least let alone give them a reason to come into the city to harass other citizens. That would be both IC and OOC.

Message Edited by Knightcrest on 07-18-2005 06:14 PM




Ok, you could have saved me all of the other acronyms and just left the two above because that is all that the first poster used.


Anyway, a moving "vulnerability" to slicing the city terminal that was random on a daily basis would prevent some of the greifing that you mention.


Even better, City Militia people could know the time that the city is "vulnerable." The militia could alsoban a smuggler if they caught them slicing the term, thereby limiting their ability to slice the city terminal. Conversely, the militia people could be giving out the information on when the city term is vulnerable, for the right price of course. We, as smugglers, are supposed to operate outside of the law are we not?


As for the IC and OOC issues; I do not think it prudent to design systems (gaming, legal, etc..) to deal with the extreme minority of potential problems. You allow the CSRs latitude to deal with unique issues, and let the rest of the gamers play within the rules like the always do.


I am not talking about allowing players the right to zoning in town, but certainly use of the shuttle is fair game. Besides, city ban doesn't prevent players from coming into your city, it just makes it so they can not use city resouces like mission terminals, banks, trainers and the shuttle. These same players that you don't want showing up in your town can ride in when ever they want.


You're thinking like a mayor, think like a smuggler!

Message Edited by boylazzy on 07-18-2005 04:39 PM



Hocky Cheetos
Master Smuggler/Master Commando
Vendor Waypoint -27, 6036 - Lok, just outside of Nym's
Under new management!

ElvisTheKing
Mon Jul 18, 2005 4:51 pm
#6

I would pay to have a smuggler un-ban me from a city. I'd pay at least 100k per city.



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