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Thread: Advise Needed.
and the individual who I made that suit for has still not payed me for it - and its been over 2 weeks). I have found that all my time is spent making armor for my PA and nothing for the public. So I ask for a price that will compensate me roughly 50-60% of what I could sell the suit for to the public. Some people in my PA have a problem with this.
Most guilds ive been in are willing to help each other out if they need loot components but it all depends and usually helps if you show your appreciation for the help by giving guild people a decent discount off your goods in the first place.
My regular-crafter armor sells to the guild for 50% off that of the public price.
So they get a good discount as far as that goes.
And I thin kthat ground rules are definately what I need. I figured that people telling me what they figured as adequate compensation was a great basis for determining the price, but I can seehow somepeople need definition, not opportunity.
Hey Saarek,
I think everyone who's been a crafter in a guild has faced this problem. A lot of people who've never crafted sometimes don't understand what's required of a crafter - when I saw the materials an armorsmith needs, I damn near flipped. Our armorsmith made a point of sending out an email detailing all the components, all the resources needed to build a suit and since then has received very little pushback in regards to prices.
In the past when I did the weaponsmith job if someone wanted a free item (which I gave alot of anyway) I'd simply email them a list of the components and say "If you can bring these high quality resources, I'll make your high quality weapon." Never bought the arguement "Well we brought you components" Yeah, you did, but did I have any left over for myself or did I use them all for your stuff? Normally if someone brought me bones and such I ended up making guns for them that took all the materials. And then not only did I not have any uber loot for myself, but I'm also out the higher quality resources I had in my stock to make it.
Some people in combat classes would never consider tackling a dungeon without a prospect of a reward - yet expect you to tackle your "dungeon" for free? Never appreciated that.
But again, when you're in a guild people expect things of you, my only suggestion would be to start a subtle "information" campaign to let people know what you have to go through to produce the stuff. Not whining posts mind you but "If you want fast turnaround time on armor then bring me x, x, x,x ,x and x - the requirements of the armor and I'll work on it".
Good Luck
Dat
First step, talk to your fellow crafters in guild and see what they do. commonality is often considered fairness.
If this produces no answers, talk to your guild leadership and see if they can provide you their expectations.
If you are still on your own to make a decision, all details and formula aside, you better make one that is based on your happiness. If you make a compromise for your guildies that makes the game not fun for you, you will be gone soon. If the game becomes a burden sooner or later your logic circuits will kick in and slap ya 
That all said,
- I would set a defined discount at the shop on all items for guild members, xx%. Conduct it via /tipping back their discount after they by something from vendor.
- I would set a defined priceto pay for the enhancements. which should be that same discount lower than their market rate.
- that way everyone gets the same guild break.
If god forbid you find a guildy buying at discount and reselling. Kill Them.
Kav wrote:
If god forbid you find a guildy buying at discount and reselling. Kill Them.
QFFE!
I was in the habit of making the weapon and incorporating the persons name into it. A couple of times I found a weapon on a vendor selling for 3 times what I sold it to a guildie for.
ME: What the heck?
Guildie: Didn't need the T21 anymore man
ME: You're still a rifleman
Guildie: Yeah but the T21 I'm using is better
ME: You bought 2 at the time with the same stats - Let me see that gun you're using - is it mine?
Guildie: LD
Ahhh crafting - glad I don't do it anymore
Ya, I am beginning to think that being a crafter in a PA is not all it's cracked up to be.
Especially an Armorsmith or Weaponsmith. If I ever do find someone re-selling my crafted items at a profit, immediately they will be banned from my vendor, however some of the guildmates this problem revolves with are people I would normally turn to. Which is why its puzzling me. Also, that my guild does get a 50% discount on my armor, which I think is more than reasonable, especially considering most AS resources on Corbantis are selling at 10cpu or higher. And current spawns are terrible stats for most items... hence me relying on looted cores temporarliy.
It's reassuring to see that I'm not the only one this has happened to and that you all are so forthcoming in assisting me. Thanks a lot.
/share OreoPie;
I used to be a guild WS. I tried the.."bring me xx resources and you got it free" sort of thing. I did the 50% off deal too. I had a house set up where only guildees could enter and had a vendor there. However I was grinding jedi at the time too and the WS was my alt. I gt tired of loggin in as said jedi and getting tells...hey can you make me a t21 etc. I started to get a bad attitude...really bad. I allowed this bad attitude to ruin many friendships. It got so bad I gave away my jedi left the guild and started a new account. I almost went to another server but I gave all my money and equiipment to my new toon and didn't want to start over.
I kinda regret losing the friendships. If I were you I would.
a. set down ground rules that you are comfortable with.
b. don't bend on them. Whatever you do don't bend.
c. worse comes to worse...leave...but don't burn bridges. Friendships last forever and so do bad feelings. My old guild loves to target me in GCW battles...and I'm just a mudblood! Preserve your friendship. You joined the guild for a reason and have stayed for a reason. Even if you need to leave preserve thoses.
Tapoh wrote:
c. worse comes to worse...leave...but don't burn bridges. Friendships last forever and so do bad feelings. My old guild loves to target me in GCW battles...and I'm just a mudblood! Preserve your friendship. You joined the guild for a reason and have stayed for a reason. Even if you need to leave preserve thoses.