Smuggler Archive
Thread: CU and special abilities.
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Cryosis21
Sun Apr 10, 2005 5:47 am
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Ok...first I just want to know if and when they do the CU are they going to make all ranged specials work for any ranged weapon and do the same for melee specials? In other words. Any of my current Smuggler Specials which only work for pistols will also work for Carbine, Rifle, Flamethrower ect...and...have they stated whether or not they will for sure be releasing the CU? Ive heard some rumors that a vote was taken and 80% of the people didnt like the CU so they may not implement it.
GanymedePharuu
Sun Apr 10, 2005 6:26 am
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Cryosis21 wrote:
Ok...first I just want to know if and when they do the CU are they going to make all ranged specials work for any ranged weapon and do the same for melee specials? In other words. Any of my current Smuggler Specials which only work for pistols will also work for Carbine, Rifle, Flamethrower ect...and...have they stated whether or not they will for sure be releasing the CU? Ive heard some rumors that a vote was taken and 80% of the people didnt like the CU so they may not implement it.
most ranged skills/abilities will work with allranged weapons. the same goes for melee.
there are some which are specific to a weapon type though. it will say in the skill description that "a _____ weapon is neccessary to use this ability" or something like that. but pretty much all the skill you get in the novice branches for ranged can be used by any weapon. and so far the only Smuggler abilityi have now is concussion shot, and that works with pistols and carbines, so i'll assume it works with rifles too.
and where did you hear these rumors? it's hard to tell how many actually don't like it.because there are many who don't like parts of it. and there are some who refuse to accept any changes so they rant and freak out, and of course the ranting lunatics are the most vocal.
maxtheusher
Sun Apr 10, 2005 6:38 am
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First off, any "statistic" about that most likely was not put through the proper formulas. Second, it was probably off a Server forum, and you all know how reliable those are. Most of the people I play with on TC5 don't seem to be bitching up a storm. It really seems like there's a certain number of players, who all seem to be spouting the same statistics, the origins of which I've never seen, only ever heard about them 3rd or 4th person, and they all seem to be statistics in which ALL players hate the CU. It's amazing how people can just say things and expect them to be true. I fully support the CU. It has some bugs and other issues, which is why they're testing it.
I don't however support this rushed testing because of ROTW. I know it's not The Devs' fault this time, but it's still a bit of an issue.
zakalex
Sun Apr 10, 2005 8:54 am
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maxtheusher wrote:
First off, any "statistic" about that most likely was not put through the proper formulas. Second, it was probably off a Server forum, and you all know how reliable those are. Most of the people I play with on TC5 don't seem to be bitching up a storm. It really seems like there's a certain number of players, who all seem to be spouting the same statistics, the origins of which I've never seen, only ever heard about them 3rd or 4th person, and they all seem to be statistics in which ALL players hate the CU. It's amazing how people can just say things and expect them to be true. I fully support the CU. It has some bugs and other issues, which is why they're testing it.
Most of the people who use that "The Majority" quote are referring to the poll the devs used in the In Testing forum. On the first day I voted that it "sucked" too, but I think part of what influenced my vote was just the sheer frustration of trying to level, at that point xp gain was alot lower then plus the fact of the huge number of players all in the same little space trying to gain xp too. But I quickly changed my mind the next day after they patch the xp so the gain wasn't as painful, and I started to run missions to gain my xp rather then stand in the newbie killing area outside Bestine.
I'mgetting comfortable withthe CU now, sure there are bugs like Keck said, but they are fixing those bugs every patch. Though the last couple seems to be a step forward in oneor two areas and a step back in others. To all those folks who have read the negative comments but haven't been on TC yet I'll suggest that you create a character and try it out for yourself. Keep in mind that you will have to endure the newbie-dom climb up. But at least you will have tried it out for yourself and made up your own mind instead of letting other people influence and decide for you.
Anyways, thats my 2 credits.
-Zaka'lex
JediArashi
Sun Apr 10, 2005 9:04 am
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Cryosis21 wrote:
Ok...first I just want to know if and when they do the CU are they going to make all ranged specials work for any ranged weapon and do the same for melee specials? In other words. Any of my current Smuggler Specials which only work for pistols will also work for Carbine, Rifle, Flamethrower ect...and...have they stated whether or not they will for sure be releasing the CU? Ive heard some rumors that a vote was taken and 80% of the people didnt like the CU so they may not implement it.
I think the specials thing was already answered so I'll speak to the "rumors".
Of course they are implementing it, they would do so even if the polls showed 100% everyone hated it. Thye've done the work, it'll happen. And it will happen on May 4th or 5th whenever the release date for the expansion is. Period.
As far as the poll, there are two things. One is that the devs talked about the ratings feedback they got from the survey all CU testors are asked to compelte each time they log off. The other is the forum poll. Both SHOULD show that people aren't content with it. If it showed the majority liked it and were happy then they did something wrong. This is in beta, it still needs LOTS of work. If someone were to think that it is perfect the way it is now, then they aren't informed enough, or experienced the CU enough to make that judgment. Things are off, things are bad, things need to be fuxed...this is why we have a beta, and these things will be taken care of. In testing we are SUPPOSED to break it, find the bugs, flaws, errors, and anomolies...that's what it is for. If someone thinks it is good right now, they just haven't done enough.
Atanmir
Sun Apr 10, 2005 11:30 pm
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Cryosis21 wrote:
Ok...first I just want to know if and when they do the CU are they going to make all ranged specials work for any ranged weapon and do the same for melee specials? In other words. Any of my current Smuggler Specials which only work for pistols will also work for Carbine, Rifle, Flamethrower ect...and...have they stated whether or not they will for sure be releasing the CU? Ive heard some rumors that a vote was taken and 80% of the people didnt like the CU so they may not implement it.
CU is really nice. and i can assure you that i can concussion shot (new novice smuggler special) with a rocket launcer.
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