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Thread: [Case Study]Day 2 Publish 19 Loot Drop Components

Romulus76
Fri Jul 01, 2005 4:25 am
#1

Well, I hate this system now. It's official. Not only have NONE of my auk/wuk gotten the salvage function but I can't loot a simple toolkit or finely crafted toolset to save my life. Here's the breakdown of what I've done since this "system" went live.


Day 1

I logged in on Dathomir (had been farming DJM's) to find out they had nerfed DJM's so decided to kill some NS to see if they dropped the new components. I was fairly lucky as I looted 3 of the top tier components within an hour and a half.


1) Delicate Trigger Mechanism - found a spawn of CL 82 NS Rangers (about 10-12 of them). One by one killed them all, don't know which one it was but got a delicate trigger mechanism off one of them. Was psyched thinking the drop rates must be pretty good if I already got one.


2) Delicate Trigger Mechanism - 10-15 minutes after the spawn of Rangers I found a spawn of CL 85 NS Stalkers. Killed em one by one and got another mechanism. Was flying high thinking the new system wasn't going to be so bad despite my loss of 1000's of pre-19 components.


3) Mandalorian Interframe - decided I'd go to the NS Stronghold to try my luck there. Killed the CL 78 sentry's - nada. Killed some protectors, sentinels and initiates - nada. Then I saw an Elder wandering around. CL 82 with about 35k ham. Decided I'd try my luck. Took awhile but got her killed, looted and wallah - Mandalorian Interframe.


So first day, despite my reservations of the new system I was happy I got 3 top tier components in a relatively short amount of time. Thinking this would be the norm I logged and went to sleep with the notion that day 2 I'd get the lower needed components even more easilly.


Day 2

I log in after reading some posts here and head to Lok to kill some Mercs. One after another, spawn after spawn fall, nothing, nada, zilch. Yeah I got a ton of weapons blaster barrels and rifle barrels to enhance crafting of guns, a couple color crystals and a ca/aa or two, but not one simple toolkit. Not one. Nothing related to slicing at all. Even killed 15 GDK's and didn't get any scales (got about 40-50 GDK scales over the last two weeks so found this odd - broke the loot tables again maybe?)


73 Lok Mercenaries Killed = ZERO simple toolkits


Finally I give up and decide to try some of the space loots. I take a quick look at the forum post regarding what drops what and decide to head to Endor space to hunt some tier 4/tier 5 black sun and try my luck. Hours go by, Black Sun fall. Nada. I wasn't even getting hardly any ship component loots. Maybe a total of 6.


62 Tier 4/Tier 5 Black Sun Killed in space = ZERO Illegal Core Boosters


Suffice to say it was not a very good day looking for slicing gear. I even checked the Galaxy wide vendor search for any of them. Not one has been put on a vendor yet on Kauri. (btw they're listed in the MISC > GENERIC section if you didn't already know). Servers just went down so one can only hope that something comes down to rectify this. I hope they made some tweaks server side with the loot table to bump the drop rates or something. This crap always happens whenever they add more drops to npc/creature that already have a bunch of other drops. Mercs on Lok drop all kinds of crap from weapons to crystals to aa/ca to weapon enhancers now they're adding these in....the stuff just gets lost in the shuffle. I'm 100% for mission based drops now after today. This isn't a good system IMO.








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majorslappy
Fri Jul 01, 2005 6:29 am
#2

I am totally against looting as a single means of obtaining slicing components.


Please include obtaining slicing components as payoffs for smuggler missions, as "skimmed" from smuggler cargo, as loot, as bonuses from smuggling contracts, as trade from NPCs (Jabba, etc.)


Having ONE way to obtain slicing components is very bad.





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SpinningCloud
Fri Jul 01, 2005 6:35 am
#3

"smuggler missions"?


LOL, you mean the smuggler missions that were described on the In Concept thread that suddenly without explanation disappeared?


I wouldn't hold a lot of hope out for that....






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rogue_eight
Fri Jul 01, 2005 6:39 am
#4

Rare loots for the high end stuff I can live with.

What I can't put up with is the fact that unless your crystal ball was working and you unpacked your WUKs/AUKs, then the loot drop rate at the moment for the most basic components means you have more chance of taking Vader home for a quick fumble than looting something.

Bleh...
Wyzchekyfirearms
Fri Jul 01, 2005 6:54 am
#5

And here I was thinking it was just my own badluck with the looting. I spent ALL of yesterday ( and i mean ALL of it I have killed Over 200 mercs and NOTHING not 1 single simple toolkit drop NOTHING. Last night went to the little Twi in spandex in the back of Nym's hotel and did blacksun duty missions. I killed over 20 waves of fighters... got a few pieces of good space components but NOT the first Illegal core booster. Sooooo needless to say not reallly all that thrilled with this loot system yet. And yes for some odd reason I'm still not sure of, I can take down a spawn of 6 lvl 82 mercs but I cant survive 2 krayt dragons soooo dunno bout those.


In response to someone's comment about checking the forums once in awhile about the WUK's being pulled out of crates before hand. I did, and they are useless. Never had that many to begin with because my guild WS and AS always kept me supplied as I needed them. No storage concerns that way. And now, we have some smartarse who wants to try and dictate to us how much they WILL pay for a slice and how much they will charge for a component, RIGHHHHHHHTTTTTT ... that's gonna go over REALLY well in this group. reminds me of a line I heard in a movie one time "Thank you for banging me Your majesty..."


These are just the ramblings of an old wook who has dreamed of SW since he was a kid. Saw ANH at 5 yrs old sitting on the roof of a station wagon at a drive in movie Opening night. I still even have my M.Falcon in its box down in the basement. Peace and honor, may the gods watch over us because the Devs certainly won't.


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Kitra
Fri Jul 01, 2005 7:13 am
#6

I personally looted two Trandoshan Intraframes while doing the Syren quest chapter 3


Two guildies each got a delicate trigger gizmo from a Gorax last night


My crated AUKs and WUKs resulted in about 20 Simple tookits and two finely crafted toolkits


So, not tremendous loot so far from my perspective, but not utterly absent either



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IKIDRO
Fri Jul 01, 2005 7:16 am
#7

On the Avatar last night we looted no tools and was in 3 hours of constant killing Still got a trandoshan rifle barrel just have to pinch the schem a guildee looted hehe





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Gaitan
Fri Jul 01, 2005 7:31 am
#8

This sort of "case study" is exactly why I'm so totally against the new slicing system. It will only reward the powergamers and loot campers, and it penalizes Smugglers into needing loot for something they have spent skill points on.


I wonder how long pistoleers would hang around if their grips line needed a special loot-only powerup before they could use any of the specials? No Firearm Strike or Body Shots unless you've gone out against high-level mobs or spent big bucks on a PUP.


I wonder how many Docs would be left in the game if they couldn't buff or heal wounds unless they had loot-only components? Take that Augmentation line right out of there, can't use it unless you've got looted stuff.


Maybe BH's wouldn't mind looking for an elite unit so they could use their Specialization line for the knockdown moves. I'm sure Jedi would like to trudge around DWB or the Avatar on the off chance they will get the piece needed to allow them to use their lightsaber technique line, and that all-important saber toss move.


In other words, it's an inappropriate way for a system to work.





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Lissik
Fri Jul 01, 2005 7:42 am
#9

..... Exactly what Romulus said............i killed for hrs.... nothing..
Romulus76
Fri Jul 01, 2005 1:14 pm
#10

Still no simple toolkits or finely crafted...anyone have any luck looting these and where?








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HythosSWG
Fri Jul 01, 2005 1:19 pm
#11






Romulus76 wrote:

Still no simple toolkits or finely crafted...anyone have any luck looting these and where?






LOL well, explains why I couldn't find any draft-schematics for them if they're a drop/salvage only! =)



Alpha_Bits
Fri Jul 01, 2005 1:31 pm
#12

I had one WUK in my inventory that wasn't crated the day publish 19 went live.


So I have a simple toolkit.


After I customized all of my armor, I wondered what to do with that lonely toolkit. I haven't decided yet. Since for all I know it may be the only toolkit I ever see, I figure I should cling to it desperately as it is so very, very precious...





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