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Thread: I posted this on Tiggs thread...

SmugglinZane
Wed Nov 24, 2004 10:21 pm
#1


Tiggs,

I will attempt to be brief and not let emotion get the better of me with this post:


1. Can we please either start properly labeling the Smuggler Alliance missions as such, or acknowledge that you have opened smuggling to all players regardless of whether or not they are Smugglers. These should be Smuggler Alliance missions, not smuggler missions. The only Smugglers are those that have invested their points in Smuggler. As you continue to do this, you continue to diminish, insult, and anger many players who have taken the time to actually advance in the Smuggler profession.

2. Clarify the statement regarding the Talus station missions. It's a little hazy, but judging from other things I have read, you do not have to be a member of the Smuggler Alliance, but a Smuggler who is a Privateer or a Rebel Pilot.


With regards to number one, I and many others would appreciate it greatly if someone could come by and tell the Smugglers where our profession is headed. As you continue to further develop the Smuggler Alliance story line, there is a growing fear that what should be Smuggler content is being given to others as well. I assure you this is not a matter of selfishness, more a matter of what will our skill points invested get us now. Things have been too quiet and I hope that we can get some info.


Zane


I do not expect a response, and I can do nothing but hope they begin to get this straight. It's funny how the simplest of detail, communication, or effort could resolve a lot of this. Notice I said or and not and. That may seem insignificant, but if they were to get the detail straight and make them Smuggler Alliance; communicate with us their intentions, plans, and schedule for our profession; or invest the effort to complete the process that GM started long ago, all things would be resolved. When you cannot be bothered to even attempt any of the three, it speaks volumes on your ability to have a successful program.


Zane



"Jedi claims of being "broken" are like saying "But my TV isn't widescreen! It's broken! My TV can't show high-def pictures in 1080i, it can only do 720i! It's broken!" Meanwhile, crafters are saying "We'd really like to have a TV that's larger than 12" and gets more than 4 channels and doesn't constantly lose vertical control", and entertainers are saying "Can we get some color instead of this B&W piece of junk?" And smugglers? We're listening to radio programs of "The Shadow" and "The Abbot and Costello Comedy Hour" and hearing FDR's Fireside Chats. We don't even HAVE a damn TV, much less a broken one or a "broken" one by Jedi standards. I'd LOVE to be as "broken" as they are." - The Legendary Solo4114
LaughingWolf
Wed Nov 24, 2004 10:29 pm
#2

I think the Talus missions are fairly clear, when they say "ground Smugglers" they mean US. All ground Smugglers except thoses who are also Imperial pilots can take the Talus missions. Anyone who don't have at least Novice Smuggler need not apply.

For the rest, I agree with you, they created a very confusing situation and it risk only getting worse.



LaffyWolf'ya - Master Smuggler / Master Pistoleer / Rebel Colonel

Fresh out of witty signatures, sorry.
Spec-Ops
Thu Nov 25, 2004 10:58 am
#3

im pretty sure its ground smugglers only of neutral or rebel pilot faction.. cuase we dont get missions now cause imps are supposed to be watchin them..



DoltanReibisch
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Gorath
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SmugglinZane
Thu Nov 25, 2004 3:26 pm
#4






Spec-Ops wrote:
im pretty sure its ground smugglers only of neutral or rebel pilot faction.. cuase we dont get missions now cause imps are supposed to be watchin them..






We all know that, but the devs continue to perpetuate the idea that Smuggler Alliance pilots are Smugglers. The original (not sure if it's been fixed yet) list was a bit confusing in what the requirements would be to take Talus missions. We have been discussing these facts at length here, but as I go through the forums I don't see it as much. This makes it all the more important that the make sure that they are wording and portraying these features and the roles of the professions properly, which is why I also stated that they need to come out of the closet and say what they have planned for us. If they do not begin to speak more clearly, this a has the potential to blow up in our faces.


Zane


PS- Tiggs had time to go through all the server Thanksgiving posts, but doesn't bother to respond to any others.




"Jedi claims of being "broken" are like saying "But my TV isn't widescreen! It's broken! My TV can't show high-def pictures in 1080i, it can only do 720i! It's broken!" Meanwhile, crafters are saying "We'd really like to have a TV that's larger than 12" and gets more than 4 channels and doesn't constantly lose vertical control", and entertainers are saying "Can we get some color instead of this B&W piece of junk?" And smugglers? We're listening to radio programs of "The Shadow" and "The Abbot and Costello Comedy Hour" and hearing FDR's Fireside Chats. We don't even HAVE a damn TV, much less a broken one or a "broken" one by Jedi standards. I'd LOVE to be as "broken" as they are." - The Legendary Solo4114
kgmkiorys
Thu Nov 25, 2004 6:21 pm
#5






SmugglinZane wrote:





Spec-Ops wrote:
im pretty sure its ground smugglers only of neutral or rebel pilot faction.. cuase we dont get missions now cause imps are supposed to be watchin them..






We all know that, but the devs continue to perpetuate the idea that Smuggler Alliance pilots are Smugglers. The original (not sure if it's been fixed yet) list was a bit confusing in what the requirements would be to take Talus missions. We have been discussing these facts at length here, but as I go through the forums I don't see it as much. This makes it all the more important that the make sure that they are wording and portraying these features and the roles of the professions properly, which is why I also stated that they need to come out of the closet and say what they have planned for us. If they do not begin to speak more clearly, this a has the potential to blow up in our faces.


Zane


PS- Tiggs had time to go through all the server Thanksgiving posts, but doesn't bother to respond to any others.






In fact that's a combination of 2 standard procedures, first is "never reply to a topic you create with a red name", second is "if this topic can generate reactions of any sort except pure joy, bury it under a huge mass of other dev posts so that the dev tracker is not showing it directly". I wonder if this is a part of Dreven's Dev guide ...



*go check and update it if necessary





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Scalime : Human Smuggler & Commando on Theed, Naritus
Chepaki : Human Smuggler Desperado on Coronet, FarStar

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LaughingWolf
Fri Nov 26, 2004 5:40 am
#6

I doubt very much you will be banned for that. Post deleted maybe, but banned? Doubt it.

I do not think the CU will contain the Smuggler revamp and I think it would be bad if it did, because then it would be half baked. That said, the CU will change stuff for us too. Half of our lines are "combat related" after all.

I believe the CU is badly needed. In fact, I think maybe it should have come before JTL, priority wise, but hey, cash and marketting speak louder. (the space and ground combat system are so different it do not matter that much)



LaffyWolf'ya - Master Smuggler / Master Pistoleer / Rebel Colonel

Fresh out of witty signatures, sorry.
kgmkiorys
Fri Nov 26, 2004 5:43 am
#7

Dont worry Veela, you don't risk anything, you know no dev or mod ever reads these threads, that's standard operating procedure



_______________________________________________________________________
Rik'kar Kiorys : Bothan Triple threat on Tyrena, Kauri

Scalime : Human Smuggler & Commando on Theed, Naritus
Chepaki : Human Smuggler Desperado on Coronet, FarStar

You never get a second chance to make a good first impression

MISTagent01
Fri Nov 26, 2004 1:08 pm
#8


I have a sneaking suspicion I'm going to get trounced with the ban bat....I posted this reply on Tiggs' announcement about the loot revamp going live this Tuesday:






Sweet! Another useless patch going Live to feebly attempt to make me forget all the lies smugglers have been fed by the devs.


I don't care about the CU, unless the CU has a huge part called the SMUGGLER REVAMP,


I don't want any part of it.




Well, anyway, thanks for the...."phat lewt."






/duck


/burstrun


See you guys later! Wish me luck in dodging the ban bat, although I think I'm doomed because we have NO skill mods to speak of.





V E E L A "her royal hawtness"
I am Jack's Smirking Revenge. I am Jack's Ignored Profession.
Theed was a bustling commerce city...people hawked their wares, danced, laughed, dueled, and had a rollicking good time. Cantinas packed with Entertainers of every race, shape and size...along with scoundrels, Stormtroopers, and drunks. People grouped up and stuck together in the wilderness, and you ALWAYS took a Scout or a Ranger with you. We lived our own Star Wars saga. We created our own personas, our own histories, and it all blended into this wonderful, magical experience that I will always remember...


That magic is gone now, but I'd pay 50 bucks a month to have it back.

Editor's Note: The author of the above post has quit giving SOE her money. She suggests you do the same, because this game will never be what you want it to be.


Spec-Ops
Tue Nov 30, 2004 6:39 pm
#9

hehe, stupid ninjas



DoltanReibisch
MasterSmuggler
CaptainoftheRogueEnforcer
Gorath
"DestroyallthatisEvil,soallthatisGoodmayflourish"
EmpireEntrepeneur
Tue Nov 30, 2004 7:59 pm
#10

Sorry if this may be a little off topic but I posted in the thread that was based on Talus Station feedback and havent gotten a response yet.

So I have to be a ground smuggler to start these - ok np
I went to the station the other night and the Selonian told me to come back in a month.
I have completed the missions for Dravis and am still working on tier 1 for Freelance.
Is there another requirement that I am unaware of? Do I need to speak to Talon as well?

With all this bickering over the terminology I havent been able to search out a clear answer.



Nanaa Essex
.:: Bria::.
Master Smuggler

Novice Pistoleer (2002)
Novice TK (0011)
Freelance Pilot (1111)

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