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Message Edited by DrevenStrobe on 02-17-2005 01:43 PM

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EnderUK wrote:

yes so its probably no good testing till after they sort this ratio out as they'll just change it again

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personally, i think its out of balance..even for the aliens, while i do not support them getting Imperial stuff, i think this is what should happen... Supposedly SPECIFIC aliens were able to be considered...almost equals... i guess... so what about this... at Underworld 4 or Master smuggler, you are allowed to...say... have aliens be treated as humans.... /w a small % cut in price (5-10% maybe even less to none).

Smugglers should not belong to a "Faction" but CAN be leaning towards one, like if you are a Smuggler in the Rebel Alliance...you should not be full on rebel, more like a mercenary. You can fight for Rebels if you wantbut only if they pay you...well(even at -5000 imp faction). I wish to fight for the highest bidder, but the problem is, in this game i dont want to be neutral or full on rebel. we should be able to "backstab" our faction, at a penalty (If we are high enough up the underworld tree then its could be zero to like maybe..i dunno x amount of FP). it would be nice in teh CU, if we were say...smuggling weapons, items, armor, and etc for the "cause", and you could smuggle the items, OR you could go..smuggle the weapons, tip off the authorities, and get some nice cash...OR some nice stuff from the recruiters

I've been on TC checking out the chages to faction cost and the new bases. Here's some information

The UWI 10% discount and MS 25% discount work. Still don't see how we can get anything higher that a Detachment HQ. They look very cool by the way.

The frogs give you up to your ranks cap in faction when you ask. The only change in rank cost seems to be getting recruit-no rank but imperial which you need +ve faction for. Unsure how much exactly. And Private only requires 10 fp. It no longer tells you how many faction points you require to get next rank.

Recruit +ve faction unsure of exact amount

Private: 10
Lance Corporal: 400
Corporal: 800
Staff Corporal: 1200
Sergeant: 1600
Staff Sergeant: 2000
Master Sergeant: 2500
Warrant Officer II: 3000
Warrant Officer I: 3500
Second Lieutenant: 4000
First Lieutenant: 5000
Army Captain: 5000
Major: 5500
Lieutenant Colonel: 5500
Colonel: 6000
Total Faction Needed: 46200

AT-STs for a human non--smuggler cost 20250 UWI 18225 MS 151875

ST Armour

chest human non--smuggler costs 7500 UWI 6750MS 5625

Legs and Helmet human non--smuggler cost4500 UWI 4050 MS 3375

The Rest human non--smuggler cost3000 UWI 2070 MS 2250

PerkNSUWIMS
S Turret300027002250
M Turret900081006750
L Turret135001215010125
HQs
Forward Outpost150001350011250
Forward Headquarters300002700022500
Tactical Center337503037525312.5
Detachment Headquaters450004050033750
Major Base600005400045000
Theater Headquaters675006075050625
SF HQs
Forward Outpost300002700022500
Forward Headquarters600005400045000
Tactical Center675006075050625
Detachment Headquaters900008100067500
Major Base12000010800090000
Theater Headquaters135000121500101250

Speical forces bases can be purchased and placed by a non-special forces player but they cannot enter them untill they are special forces. You cannot by the items in red as of yet.

The Detachment Headquaters look really really cool inside they have a briefing room and a detament cell You can also get up on to the battlements as a defender. I could not for the life of be find the turret controls in the SF base. I was unable to donate turretsto the base defences (This might have just been my noobish ways of going the wrong way about it. I was going to the HQ terminal and donating to defence nothing happened though.)Bases do not take up lots. You can place up to three and you get two pve bases when you buy a pvp base.

please add any other information you have regarding this patch

Message Edited by EnderUK on 02-17-2005 11:30 PM

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EnderUK wrote:

Speical forces bases can be purchased and placed by a non-special forces player but they cannot enter them untill they are special forces.

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That sounds like a bug. I wouldn't count on that making it into live.

btw - Got logged into the test center and they rebooted it before I could even get my character built. Will be happy to help test whatever. I'll be on the boards on my other machine. Same ign.

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maxtheusher wrote:

If I'm on at the right time I'll do it

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DrevenStrobe wrote:

Just a thought that I might try to put into action this evening...

For a very long while, the Rank/Cost/Cap/Ratio table in my Guide to Selling FP has been corrected, recorrected, and re-recorrected as people have come in and given feedback as to ranks being out of order, or costs / caps not being right, or ratios being off...and I'm still not sure it's correct.

So, with the handy blue frogs being up on TC-Gorath, I was wondering if I might be able to recruit a fellow Smuggler to help me out with a little testing of our own tonight.

Basically, what I was thinking was, two of us building Master Smugglers, then loading up on credits and heading to the nearest recruiter, I would prefer to test this for both factions, since I think the rank listings are different for both. One would buy FP, making note of what rank, how much it cost for the rank, the /del ratio for that rank (by /del-ing 1000 to the other...since the more you /del, the more accurate the ratio is), and what the cap is for each rank. We could also make note of what the FP costs are for the faction perks and such as well.

I won't be online until after 5p CST (GMT -6), but I would really like to do this if I can find a partner to give me a hand.

If we really wanted to get thorough with it, we could also test out the Imperial predjudice penalties for alien species as well...

Message Edited by DrevenStrobe on 02-17-2005 01:43 PM

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EnderUK wrote:

You can get 1000fp stright from the blue frogs.

I think they might have nerfed/broken our discount somehow. It might have been that the 100k bases could only be purchased by master smugglers bringing them down to 75k. I'll test this out when my buffs on live go. If a non master smuggler is getting them at the same cost then...

You might want to test non-smuggler faction rank cost and smuggler faction rank cost and master smuggler faction rank cost. I'll go back into TC soonish

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