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Thread: hard cap for slicing xp
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Stawei_Idow
Wed Feb 23, 2005 2:15 pm
#1
im guessing the cap is 100k?
thats what is should be theoretically.
of course, in theory there is no difference between theory and reality, in reality, there is...
i know its at least 86k because i had about 85.5k and could still get more, but i want to get some confirmation so i dont waste any of my slices.
since i get to slice some 14000 items for fs conversion, waste is a bad thing.
i did the math, and not including the novice box, it takes 14700 slices to get enough fs xp to get one branch of senses xp.
i was not happy about that.
i have scout 4xxx so i cap at 30k but with 8:1, thats only 3750 after conversion, which is 45 slices, and since i cap scout in about 30-45 minutes while hunting, its almost worthless.
i had a bunch of xp to get the novice box, scout, slicing, survey, some survival and trapping, it was easy, but now that im a m smuggler/pistols with some tk and scout, this sucks.
if you need novice senses, add another 600 slices to the total, making 15300 slices.
im glad im only doing the luck tree.
thats what is should be theoretically.
of course, in theory there is no difference between theory and reality, in reality, there is...
i know its at least 86k because i had about 85.5k and could still get more, but i want to get some confirmation so i dont waste any of my slices.
since i get to slice some 14000 items for fs conversion, waste is a bad thing.
i did the math, and not including the novice box, it takes 14700 slices to get enough fs xp to get one branch of senses xp.
i was not happy about that.
i have scout 4xxx so i cap at 30k but with 8:1, thats only 3750 after conversion, which is 45 slices, and since i cap scout in about 30-45 minutes while hunting, its almost worthless.
i had a bunch of xp to get the novice box, scout, slicing, survey, some survival and trapping, it was easy, but now that im a m smuggler/pistols with some tk and scout, this sucks.
if you need novice senses, add another 600 slices to the total, making 15300 slices.
im glad im only doing the luck tree.
JacenNightstorm
Wed Feb 23, 2005 9:06 pm
#2
Exactly why I am contemplating picking up the tracking Ranger tree so I can up my scout xp cap.
That way, I can hunt rancors as I should be able to hit the scout xp ceilin alot quicker, and cheaper. (face it 15k wuks and clamps can be expensive) By my calculations once you reach 4th level wayfarer or tracking it should take about 70 max XP trips to finish a tree.
Plus this way you can harvest, make money as you xp, rather than burn it through slicing, and you gain combat and weapon xp. Plus it should be alot less boring.
Only problem, I may have to drop some smuggler skills to get to Trackin 4.
But only for the time it takes to make those 70 scout xp trips.
I am only gonna do this cause every smuggler needs a lil luck.
That way, I can hunt rancors as I should be able to hit the scout xp ceilin alot quicker, and cheaper. (face it 15k wuks and clamps can be expensive) By my calculations once you reach 4th level wayfarer or tracking it should take about 70 max XP trips to finish a tree.
Plus this way you can harvest, make money as you xp, rather than burn it through slicing, and you gain combat and weapon xp. Plus it should be alot less boring.
Only problem, I may have to drop some smuggler skills to get to Trackin 4.
But only for the time it takes to make those 70 scout xp trips.
I am only gonna do this cause every smuggler needs a lil luck.
Stawei_Idow
Wed Feb 23, 2005 10:43 pm
#3
i dont want to change my skills is the problem.
i would have to drop almost everything i have to go ranger, being the m. smuggler/m. pistols with tk x143 and scout 4xxx.
dropping tk would be not big deal but what should i drop, smuggler or pistols?
its a lose/lose either way.
i like selling faction and having the pistol specials, but without pistoleer, the specials are worthless.
damned if you do, damned if you dont.
i have a pretty good system for slicing so it goes fast. since i have a contract with a smith, i dont have to deal with tellhell or complainers, so its a lot better than it could be.
400 slices makes 100k which is the cap (i think), so that would be about 37 trips for conversion, but i have some scout so maybe 1 or 2 less, which is about half of the ranger count of 70.
with the contract i have, the smith provides all the clamps/wuk/auk/knives so there is no cost for me, its only the time that i spend, and so i dont get paid a whole lot, but it is worth my time.
i have never paid more than 6k for wuk/auk, and i make my own clamps and knives so my cost is pretty low, if youre paying 15k for a crate of wuk/auk, you need to shop around.
or find a smith and make a deal.
15k is way out of line, it only take 30 resources per auk/wuk, thats a cost of 20cpu for something that takes grind quality resources.
i would have to drop almost everything i have to go ranger, being the m. smuggler/m. pistols with tk x143 and scout 4xxx.
dropping tk would be not big deal but what should i drop, smuggler or pistols?
its a lose/lose either way.
i like selling faction and having the pistol specials, but without pistoleer, the specials are worthless.
damned if you do, damned if you dont.
i have a pretty good system for slicing so it goes fast. since i have a contract with a smith, i dont have to deal with tellhell or complainers, so its a lot better than it could be.
400 slices makes 100k which is the cap (i think), so that would be about 37 trips for conversion, but i have some scout so maybe 1 or 2 less, which is about half of the ranger count of 70.
with the contract i have, the smith provides all the clamps/wuk/auk/knives so there is no cost for me, its only the time that i spend, and so i dont get paid a whole lot, but it is worth my time.
i have never paid more than 6k for wuk/auk, and i make my own clamps and knives so my cost is pretty low, if youre paying 15k for a crate of wuk/auk, you need to shop around.
or find a smith and make a deal.
15k is way out of line, it only take 30 resources per auk/wuk, thats a cost of 20cpu for something that takes grind quality resources.
JacenNightstorm
Thu Feb 24, 2005 4:44 pm
#4
I wasn't sayin I paid 15k I was sayin you need to buy 15k of them.
You dont have to drop all the way out of Smuggler, I worked it and I could go 1410, and keep Mpistoleer, and get the Ranger tracking tree. Spices is easy an cheap to grind back up, and the pistol xp is easy. I figured if I grinded it out it would take me 3 to 4 weeks as easy as scout xp is to get, and I can actually play while doing it.
You buddy suppling you with Clamps and Wuks, might back out when he calaculates the factory time, and resources needed for 30k units. I did a 1000 run of Wuk's last week, and it tied my factory up a whole day. 15k Wuks, 15k Clamps, 3k laser knives, and 14k survival knives, is gonna eat up alot of resources and factory time.
You dont have to drop all the way out of Smuggler, I worked it and I could go 1410, and keep Mpistoleer, and get the Ranger tracking tree. Spices is easy an cheap to grind back up, and the pistol xp is easy. I figured if I grinded it out it would take me 3 to 4 weeks as easy as scout xp is to get, and I can actually play while doing it.
You buddy suppling you with Clamps and Wuks, might back out when he calaculates the factory time, and resources needed for 30k units. I did a 1000 run of Wuk's last week, and it tied my factory up a whole day. 15k Wuks, 15k Clamps, 3k laser knives, and 14k survival knives, is gonna eat up alot of resources and factory time.
Stawei_Idow
Thu Feb 24, 2005 5:56 pm
#5
well, to each his own, but i dont want to redo anything ive got already.
im not a fotm type player. i dont use grenades to get extra combat. i like the fact that i have 2 elite professions for xp conversion (tk and pistols) so i get plenty of xp for the village. yeah, its going to take me longer but i dont play to grind out a jedi.
for now i only want a couple of trees, the defenses really, and luck. it cant hurt.
maybe ill get jedi some time and i will be making my alt the same skils i have now. i guess im a glutten for punishment but i like smuggler and pistoleer.
eventually id like to drop all smuggler but pistols and get the bh pistols line, and novice commando if i have the points left, but i doubt there will be enough.
and my deal with the smith, providing all the supplies was his idea.
i just happened to see his post in the trade forums and that was one thing he mentioned, so he already knew what it was going to cost him in time and resources.
im not a fotm type player. i dont use grenades to get extra combat. i like the fact that i have 2 elite professions for xp conversion (tk and pistols) so i get plenty of xp for the village. yeah, its going to take me longer but i dont play to grind out a jedi.
for now i only want a couple of trees, the defenses really, and luck. it cant hurt.
maybe ill get jedi some time and i will be making my alt the same skils i have now. i guess im a glutten for punishment but i like smuggler and pistoleer.
eventually id like to drop all smuggler but pistols and get the bh pistols line, and novice commando if i have the points left, but i doubt there will be enough.
and my deal with the smith, providing all the supplies was his idea.
i just happened to see his post in the trade forums and that was one thing he mentioned, so he already knew what it was going to cost him in time and resources.
Kamileon
Thu Feb 24, 2005 5:58 pm
#6
Jedi grinding slicing for FS xp?
That's f'in classic. Make sure you piss people off in the meantime to get them to whine about it, so that slicing can get nerfed too.
Cheers!
That's f'in classic. Make sure you piss people off in the meantime to get them to whine about it, so that slicing can get nerfed too.
Cheers!
Stawei_Idow
Thu Feb 24, 2005 6:34 pm
#7
im not too sure what you mean by this.
im not a jedi, and i certainly dont grind anything.
i hunt solo and with friends/guildmates and get xp to convert, and slice along the way.
i got a lot of slicing business today because of the new gcw changes, on top of the contract i have with a smith.
whenever i cap either slicing or pistols AND tk i go convert. which means i wont have a jedi in 6 phases, but i dont care. sometimes i have full pistols and tk and not a lot of slice, sometimes other way around, doesnt matter to me.
i dont play to GRIND GRIND GRIND like so many others do.
thats the way they want to play, great, but its not my style.
but the unlocks will be there if i ever decide to get jedi. i will probably get all the trees unlocked except the medic based missions since i have no medic skills.
they are all missions and content to me, who cares if i dont actually train surveying or crafting technique, if i can do the mission, i may as well.
missions are content to me, not grinding jedi or some fotm uber template.
im not a jedi, and i certainly dont grind anything.
i hunt solo and with friends/guildmates and get xp to convert, and slice along the way.
i got a lot of slicing business today because of the new gcw changes, on top of the contract i have with a smith.
whenever i cap either slicing or pistols AND tk i go convert. which means i wont have a jedi in 6 phases, but i dont care. sometimes i have full pistols and tk and not a lot of slice, sometimes other way around, doesnt matter to me.
i dont play to GRIND GRIND GRIND like so many others do.
thats the way they want to play, great, but its not my style.
but the unlocks will be there if i ever decide to get jedi. i will probably get all the trees unlocked except the medic based missions since i have no medic skills.
they are all missions and content to me, who cares if i dont actually train surveying or crafting technique, if i can do the mission, i may as well.
missions are content to me, not grinding jedi or some fotm uber template.
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