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Thread: The new slicing system

Balzan
Fri Jul 01, 2005 4:28 am
#1

To all those smugglers (that's right lower s), out there whinging about the slicing changes:

Look at yourselves, you people aren't acting like Smugglers. So what you don't like the slicing "upgrade" deal with it. All we can do is make suggestions to Wes to make to the devs. All this "I hate the new slicing..." is just making us on similar terms to dare I say it... The jedi community.

This system is what it is. It will not be rolled back it will not be affected at all by your constant whinging. IT will however make the devs less likely to listen to our concerns.

Stop wasting this forum with your whining, or I'll call you all jedi

To all those Smugglers (with a capital S), out there:

Stay cool and don't let this tiny little inconvenience bother us. Let's act like Smugglers.



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CaptainTanis
Fri Jul 01, 2005 4:41 am
#2

Erm, maybe I've got things wrong, but most of us Smugglers here aren't asking for it to be rolled back. I myself (and maybe others) would like to see several things changed/altered:

1 - increase the loot drop rate of the needed components needed for slicing: not everyone is an uber combat type that can solo krayts or Night Sisters for instance - I'm sure most would appreciate this happening.

2 - allow those that still have crates of upgrade kits from pre upgrade to be able to salvage them from the crates. Yes, we all now know about a supposed weeks worth of warnings about having to uncrate these kits prior to the patch going live, but not everyone lives in these forums and wasn't aware of this need for uncrating kits. It's unfair of them to think that we'd all have enough spare for X ammount of uncrated kits (crikey - I still have around 2k's worth of various kits sitting in crates). Even though we can still convert the last kit in each crate, this is hardly enough to help us.

If there's any profession that's needed an upgrade it's Smuggler. We've waited 2 years for something and then we get this farse...I love the Smuggler profession and indeed I will stick with it. But unless we DO speak out our concerns will not get heard and yet again SOE/the Dev's will sit back and just be happy with they've done with publish 19. And on the matter of speaking out: a CSR confirmed to me today that people's concerns have been noted by the dev's. Of course whether or not they do something is another matter. But atleast opinoins are being voiced. So, keep up the good work people...let them know what we think of this update.

(NOTE* Please support Balzan's campaign of spelling Smuggler with a capital S ; )
dlc3007
Fri Jul 01, 2005 5:02 am
#3






CaptainTanis wrote:

1 - increase the loot drop rate of the needed components needed for slicing: not everyone is an uber combat type that can solo krayts or Night Sisters for instance - I'm sure most would appreciate this happening. We were already told that drop rates would be watched and modified as needed.You honestly think that two days gives accurate data???

2 - allow those that still have crates of upgrade kits from pre upgrade to be able to salvage them from the crates. Yes, we all now know about a supposed actual weeks worth of warnings about having to uncrate these kits prior to the patch going live, but not everyone lives in bothers to check these forums and wasn't aware of this need for uncrating kits. It's unfair of them to think that we'd all have enough spare for X ammount of uncrated kits (crikey - I still have around 2k's worth of various kits sitting in crates). Even though we can still convert the last kit in each crate, this is hardly enough to help us. Again, we've been told that this will be fixed. Obviously, there were higher priorities, like the CH. We waited this long... you can't waita week or so for the crate items to be fixed? Even if they aren't, see response to statement 1.







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Jedi kiss their sisters -- repeatedly.



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CaptainTanis
Fri Jul 01, 2005 5:07 am
#4

Did I say I wanted or expected these things to be done now? No - I didn't. My post was merely to show what people are asking about. And it's not about being bothered to check these forums...some of us have lives beyond this game and occasionally can't check these forums for (great shock...) days at a time...maybe even a week or so. Jeez...some people really do like to jump down people's throats...
dlc3007
Fri Jul 01, 2005 5:12 am
#5

Apparently you took that much more harshly than it was intended. Sorry. Didn't mean it as a flame.


I will say, though, that if apublish is coming (and they come on a pretty regular basis now), it might be a good idea to check the forums. You don't make the best impression when you appear to complain about something that has basically been common knowledge for some time now.




Imperial Col. Croda L'to

Jedi kiss their sisters -- repeatedly.



Zombie_Arsani wrote: Quiet jedi, grownups are talking.
majorslappy
Fri Jul 01, 2005 6:27 am
#6


I am totally against looting as a single means of obtaining slicing components.


Please include obtaining slicing components as payoffs for smuggler missions, as "skimmed" from smuggler cargo, as loot, as bonuses from smuggling contracts, as trade from NPCs (Jabba, etc.)


Having ONE way to obtain slicing components is very bad.




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SpinningCloud
Fri Jul 01, 2005 6:37 am
#7

Balzan; "IT will however make the devs less likely to listen to our concerns."


ROFLMAO


HOW do they "listen to our concerns"LESS than they have for the past two years?






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SpinningCloud
Fri Jul 01, 2005 6:54 am
#8

dlc3007; "You don't make the best impression when you appear to complain about something that has basically been common knowledge for some time now."


Interesting you hold the player base to higher standards than you do SOE.


SOE routinely ignores 'common knowledge' posted on Test Center forums...like this last Publish for example.


And, I think that two days is definitely long enough to fix both the CH bugs AND the smuggler bugs. The publish was an abortion with SOE introducing bugs that "has basically been common knowledge for some time now" and they haven't been in the least communicative with their customer base over the issues. In fact from the moment this Publish went to In Test they have, for the most part, ignored us.





Smuggler, Smuggler, Smuggler Pie, Two years of "Soon"(TM), a harsh bunch of lies.
Ask me a riddle and I reply: "Smuggler, Smuggler, Smuggler Pie"

Smuggler, Smuggler, Smuggler Pie, Dancers can't smuggle and neither can I.
Ask me a riddle and I reply: "Smuggler, Smuggler, Smuggler Pie."

Smuggler, Smuggler, Smuggler Pie, Why are there Jedi, I don't know why.
Ask me a riddle and I reply: "Smuggler, Smuggler, Smuggler Pie."

Balzan
Fri Jul 01, 2005 9:34 am
#9

WE had a time when were getting quite a few dev statements in our forum. However after a few of them we got whiney... And they stoped.



Taerl Setran | Churen Tek-Den
Smuggler 90 | Elder Jedi 90----|

Crew for the Undermyth/ideas for your own crew.
Underworld
How I see NGE smuggler working
DISCLAIMER: By reading the above post you waver all rights to take my post as offensive and completely understand that whatever said that could be misconstrued as offensive was instead offered as humour, unless stated otherwise.
dlc3007
Fri Jul 01, 2005 9:35 am
#10

Think there's a connection??



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meltony
Fri Jul 01, 2005 9:38 am
#11

Been smuggler for a long while now..


and i do like the slicing changes but like most of you dont like the idea of looting the tools to do our job............


The price of a slice is going to rocket......... and are the paying customers going to pay that much!!!




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