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Thread: To: The Smuggler Community, Re: FD Nerf
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Geevo
Mon Feb 21, 2005 5:05 am
#1
I respectfully request that you (the Smuggler Community)give the Devs a little time to formulate any responses. We are just going around the same arguements. We all agree on the basic facts, the history, and that nearly every adjustment to Smuggler has been a nerf.
Give them a little time ...two things they have shown as a whole over the last few months is an attempt to commumicate and to do more for the game.
They understand we are upset ... I am sure they have read a large portion of our threads, and I am sure Wes/Caylin have been screaming things we can't see. Just a little time ... (a couple of weeks at most).
Anyone have a chuckle story?
Someone tipped me 250k for 2 slices today ... I tipped him 200k back.
silly customers
Someone tipped me 250k for 2 slices today ... I tipped him 200k back.
silly customers
Eulbobo
Mon Feb 21, 2005 5:07 am
#2
A little time for what?
Remember all revamp promises?
Remember how they told us they would fix the autopull issues we had?
No, i won't let them ANY time.... They need to do something NOW... Because they won't do anything after
Remember all revamp promises?
Remember how they told us they would fix the autopull issues we had?
No, i won't let them ANY time.... They need to do something NOW... Because they won't do anything after
Durinthiam
Mon Feb 21, 2005 5:42 am
#3
2 Years of Lies/Broken Promises
2 months of gucci loot and a HoC chat that had the same clammy answers whenever a smuggler spoke
Times up, time to pay the bill
2 months of gucci loot and a HoC chat that had the same clammy answers whenever a smuggler spoke
Times up, time to pay the bill
Waarangel
Mon Feb 21, 2005 5:59 am
#4
Sadly, I am hopping on this bandwagon. Autopull has NOT been fixed. Smuggler revamp has been pushed off. Now they threaten to take one of the few remaining skills we have when there are much easier, and more reasonable solutions.
It's not about being angry. It's about finality. SOE is showing us once again, that our profession is meaningless.
BeigeKnight
Mon Feb 21, 2005 6:19 am
#5
Well, after about 4 days I've calmed down about the whole thing. We could post a hundred threads a day complaining about the nerf, but we all know who does the whining around here, and I for one don't want to bring our community down to their level.
And if you haven't figured out who I meant, I was talking about the Jedi and Bounty Hunters
HKowalsky
Mon Feb 21, 2005 6:27 am
#6
I hate to say this as my first post but this nerf has finally moved me to drop smuggler, it was my first holo and i loved it so much i never grinded anything else.
this should be in the top five issues but i don't care anymore so here are my reasons to quit smuggler.
1- Slicing is too expensive (due to randomness, calculate how much a krayt pistol sliced for 30%+ damage could cost in failed attemps)
2-No smuggling at all, (yes with the escalation of imperial presence over the galaxy REBELS could welcome a smuggler but there again everybopdy and their grandmothers have a jedi with mind trick or enough imp rank as to ignore patrols)
3-Spices are weaker than buffs, have drawbacks and last less. why would i get spiced?
4-Underworld is broken, useless and why in the world does it require pistol xp? could it have been quest based? i think so.
5-Dirty fighting my @$$ FD was nerfed so the aggro did not go away so it was nearly useless but in pvp, now it is nerfed for pvp too, panic shot is a useless skill 90% of the time(pistols are so fast you either have a macro to peace after the panic shot or you will break it inmediatly), Last ditch damage is good but alas still random pool so only goodagainst ATST, (why not make it action damage to make it desirable as a complement for pistoler-BH?, after all you cannot use it unless your pistol speed is close to cap.) only good thing the ranged KD , not worth it because we must have another combat prof to deal some damage and pistoler has amelee KD lower in the tree.
and apart from that ...... three words Master Smuggler Box
DRWolfe
Mon Feb 21, 2005 6:47 am
#7
I'm sorry, but the Devs had plenty of time to discuss the change with us when they put up the patch notes. They took a good deal of time to work with the Rangers on the perk they got in the patch, but all they gave us when we asked about the note was "We nerfed you, silly. "
It was the smiley that really got me, like this was some wonderful thing we'd been asking for.
I'll wait for communication, but I'm not holding my breath. If any of us had been holding our breath waiting for anything from the devs at any time, there would be only blue, dead Smugglers in SWG, and I'm not talking about Smuggler Smurf after a bad spice deal, either
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EDIT: And I do not believe FD belongs in the Master Smuggler Box, either. It's a great help to up-and-coming Smugglers who often do not have other Pistol skills trying to get that huge amount of Pistol XP.
"It was the smiley that really got me, like this was some wonderful thing we'd been asking for.
I'll wait for communication, but I'm not holding my breath. If any of us had been holding our breath waiting for anything from the devs at any time, there would be only blue, dead Smugglers in SWG, and I'm not talking about Smuggler Smurf after a bad spice deal, either
.EDIT: And I do not believe FD belongs in the Master Smuggler Box, either. It's a great help to up-and-coming Smugglers who often do not have other Pistol skills trying to get that huge amount of Pistol XP.
Message Edited by DRWolfe on 02-21-2005 08:48 AM
Shrendyc
Mon Feb 21, 2005 6:49 am
#8
Geevo wrote:
I respectfully request that you (the Smuggler Community)give the Devs a little time to formulate any responses. We are just going around the same arguements. We all agree on the basic facts, the history, and that nearly every adjustment to Smuggler has been a nerf.
Give them a little time ...two things they have shown as a whole over the last few months is an attempt to commumicate and to do more for the game.
They understand we are upset ... I am sure they have read a large portion of our threads, and I am sure Wes/Caylin have been screaming things we can't see. Just a little time ... (a couple of weeks at most).
Anyone have a chuckle story?
Someone tipped me 250k for 2 slices today ... I tipped him 200k back.
Heya, Geevo...
I appreciate what you're trying to do here, but I think this change is going to be a hard one to take for a lot of people. Even I with my new attitude of trying to be positive had to sit back and not post things, so I wouldn't just add fuel to the fire. There's just really nothing more to say about this, as on one occasion or another, its all been said before. Guess I'm getting tired of always having to suck it up and deal with it.
Anyway, thanks for the positive attitude, man. You're one cool hombre.
mrmanta
Mon Feb 21, 2005 6:49 am
#9
I think it was the smiley that set off a good number of us. Seriously, I think the Devs need to takw the weekend off and go to a PR skills retreator something.
DRWolfe wrote:
It was the smiley that really got me, like this was some wonderful thing we'd been asking for.
SmugglinZane
Mon Feb 21, 2005 9:11 am
#10
I respect you and a lot of the things you say Geevo, but I can't comply with your request. I won't get into it again in this thread, but I refuse to give any member of the dev team an ounce of respect or courtesy until they show me some in return. Tiggs and TH, sure. The rest can fly a kite.
Besides, the only people we hear from are Tiggs, who I still show respect and appreciation to because she's just the messenger, and JugtG and Tyrant. Tyrant gives condescending, dismissive responses that have zero argumentative qualities what so ever. He might as well just tell us he's the boss and it's going to be his way or no way. JustG only ever posts to slap the Smugglers. His moronic justifications of capital S in the past, and telling us that this has been broken since launch put him on the bottom rung as far as I'm concerned. Really, they should either force him to play a Smuggler or keep him away from our profession in the future since he seems so willing to take us apart piecemeal.
They had their chance to to come up with their responses. Nearly everything else on these patches was put forth long before they went to test center. Do you really think they delayed telling us anything about this without purpose.
They talk the talk, but they don't walk the walk. Their actions speak a heck of a lot louder than their once again meaningless words. I've had enough of their talk, it's time we see some action.
PS- I respect what you're trying to do so I'm giving you 5 starts even though I don't agree with it.
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