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ConfusedRecruit

Thu Jul 28, 2005 7:36 pm

i have a question, and i am sure it has already come up, so if it has, can somene point me to the link(s) about it? if not, can someone take a stab at answering it for me?

i just had two elite carbines sliced. one was 1022 max damage, the other was 1033 max damage. the cap listed in a link on the weaponsmith forum says that the maximum damage for this is 1063.75. 2% damage slices would not have put me at the max damage cap, so with this in mind, i opted for a 4% damage slice and a 4% speed slice on each. the 1033 should have gone high enough to hit the damage cap this way, and the 1022 would have also been right at the damage cap. when i got them back, both were at 1046 max damage. the frustrating thing is that i could have got this number with a 2% slice, and then had an 8% speed slice, had i known that the slice was not going to go to 1063.

has anyone sliced a similar weapon, and had either the same or different results to compare? is the weaponsmith listing wrong, and is the damage cap 1046, and not 1063? or is ther eanother bug in slicing now that does not let weapons hit their cap? anyone have an idea? i have never crafted an elite carbine at, or past 1046 yet, so i cannot see if it would go higher when crafted. i think the highest crafted on e i have done is 1040 max damge.

thanks.

twotimes

Thu Jul 28, 2005 7:39 pm

#2

i'm not sure which thread it was, but i know i've seen plenty of stuff about how slicing is effed up. i think the only slice type that's actually working is speed... i could be way wrong though. but that's what i remember reading.

i haven't logged on more than once since the slicing changes, and i haven't sliced since... uhh... march?

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heinie

Thu Jul 28, 2005 8:10 pm

#3

There is a slice dam cap just like the crafting cap but the slice cap is lower than the crafting. Like stated in the post above this one it is f--kup. Like the rest of our profession.

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Nicolas_Frost

Thu Jul 28, 2005 10:55 pm

#4

He's right. You can bet if you have a weapon with a crafted damage cap of 1000, and you made one which is 967, that you'll be good if you can get five more points of damage, because the slicing damage cap will be right around 975(if you're lucky and haven't already passed it). Stupid, ain't it?

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ConfusedRecruit

Fri Jul 29, 2005 1:40 pm

#5

yeah, i have seen all this, i was hoping someone could post any data they have. some of you must keep data to be able to inform customers of what the slice will be. i have seen a few carbines and they all fell short of the crafted cap, but also the only high tissued laser rifle i know of actually hit the crafted cap exactly with a slice. i'm just looking for some actual feedback as to whether there are consistent results, etc. some one must be able to say:

yeah, i sliced 15 elite carbines and all capped at 1046

or:

yeah, i sliced 15 elite carbines, and some capped at 1046, but some went all the way to the crafted cap.

dont get me wrong, i'm not complaining about the replies, just looking for someone who has kept some records of their results. i need to know so i can make the best use of my points. for instance, i took 4% damage & speed slices on my carbine, but had i known that it would cap at 1046, i could have achieved that with a 2% damage slice, allowing me enough customization to get an 8% speed slice. sure, it makes little difference in the end result, but the speed slice would have put the dps up higher, making it a bit more attractive to the potential buyer. we all know that the dps is a near useless stat, but if you look at two capped weapons with roughly the same price, and all other stats equal, you would buy the one that had the better dps, based on that extra speed slice.

maybe it would be possible to create a post and get it stickied to let people coordinate their results, so nobody wastes their customization on trying for slices that do not work?

DigiDante

Fri Jul 29, 2005 1:43 pm

#6

I have sliced two markII's (same damage cap as elite right?) and both capped at 1046.

I used an illegal booster on one and has a 2 pt damage increase...

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ConfusedRecruit

Sat Jul 30, 2005 1:12 pm

#7

thank, thats what i was looking for. how about pistols? i made a 920, and it could not be sliced. a friend also had a 920 that could not be sliced. but, he remembered making a 916 that did slice, but did not remember what it sliced to. any input here? oh, it was a dl44 xt.

BeigeKnight

Sat Jul 30, 2005 9:37 pm

#8

I had a question along these lines...

I got some tissues and want an Adv. Laser Rifle made. Now, I only rely on general ranged stuff for my rifle. I just want to root from 65m. I was going to have the weaponsmith experiment on speed and slice for damage with an Illegal Core Booster, but would I be better off putting it all in damage and speed slicing the hell out of it? I have a Delicate Trigger Assembly set aside...

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teufelhundenE4

Sat Jul 30, 2005 10:00 pm

#9

I heard from somewhere that it seemed the damage slice percentages came from the minimum damage stats but I can't confirm this

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Sat Jul 30, 2005 10:17 pm

#10

cant confirm, sorry

but i suspect that the damage slice % is based on the unsliced damage.. there was a thread bout that some time ago where someone was asking bout the damage adds etc

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ConfusedRecruit

Mon Aug 01, 2005 3:15 pm

#11

i can guarantee that it is not based on the as-crafted maximum damage. just look at the stats on the ones we were discussing. my elites are as follows:

1022 max> 4% slice > 1046 max

1033 max > 4% slice > 1046 max

1029 max > 2% slice > 1046 max

it may well be based on the theoretical cap though.1046 is about 98-99% of the 1063.75 cap. hard to tell for sure since the 1046 is really most likely 1046.XX, and we cant tell what the last two digits are.

if any of you slice a pistol like the dl44 xt, please post what they seem to cap at. it will allow the smith to be able to maximize the stats, if we can predict the slices.

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