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Thread: TOPIC: Armor Break & Confusing Questions
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TorqueMonster
Mon Sep 12, 2005 8:06 am
#1
First let me state that I have talked with not one or two people, but many. The discussions relating to armor break, its attack methodology and defenses as per armor break slicing are in a cloud of what many believe is confusion.
Questions:
[1] How is armor break applied?
[2] What part of the body does armor break hit?
[3] Does armor break always hit the same body part?
[4] If armor break hits a random body part, then an all armor pieces need to be sliced against it?
[5] If amor break, technically hits "All" parts at one time to land its complete state, then why doesn't one single armor break slice on one piece of armor suffice?
[6] If armor break once applied, allows a stronger attack to the entire body, is it not entirely wrong to think that the inital armor break attack hits the entire body thus allowing only a 1 piece of armor to be sliced to get the chance of "saving"
[7] If armor break hits only 1 body part, every time to make the "armor break" state active, then slicing that 1 piece of armor only should work right? Clarify: armor break always hits the chest, but allows all attacks to any part of the body to take the effect. Odd?
Closing: Essentially what I am trying to understand is really simple. You say armor break applies the state. Thats fine, but where is the hit location to apply the state? One body part? If so, is it always the same body part? Armor Break slice protect that one only, and your done. Hits the entire body? Would you not be able to merely slice 1 piece of armor only and get the same effect because it detects that piece?
Or am I completely misunderstand how this works. Bear in mind, I talked to quite a few people and everyone appears to be confused, and have extremely varying opinions. Please comment...
BloodMonk
Mon Sep 12, 2005 8:31 am
#3
as far as I understand, and could see from the combatlog, armourbreak is applied to all pieces when it does not miss.
EVERY single attack hit 1 part, so if a partical attacks hits a non sliced piece, you get full AB damage for that, if it hits a sliced piece, you get reduced AB damage.
I'll try to test this with my guildie to be 100% sure it works like that as there's one other possibility
CalArsou
Mon Sep 12, 2005 9:23 am
#4
BloodMonk wrote:as far as I understand, and could see from the combatlog, armourbreak is applied to all pieces when it does not miss.
EVERY single attack hit 1 part, so if a partical attacks hits a non sliced piece, you get full AB damage for that, if it hits a sliced piece, you get reduced AB damage.
That's how I understand it.
Someone ABs you and the attack hits your Right Bicep (so for me, the Jacket), you though are now Armor Broken (just like if you were Snared or whatever). If your Jacket had been AB Sliced, you would have mitigated those effects. Doesn't matter if you're Pants are AB Sliced or not in this case.
The attack hits you in a body part, that body part is covered by a piece of armor (hopefully
TorqueMonster
Mon Sep 12, 2005 9:37 am
#5
Now we're getting somewhere. So do armor break protection on helmet, chest and pants only. And harden everything else right? Wouldnt that seem logical?
BloodMonk
Mon Sep 12, 2005 10:00 am
#6
harden sucks...I'd do AB III on all pieces, the do either resiliance or deflection I
Jaguarrr
Tue Sep 13, 2005 1:07 am
#7
TorqueMonster wrote:
First let me state that I have talked with not one or two people, but many. The discussions relating to armor break, its attack methodology and defenses as per armor break slicing are in a cloud of what many believe is confusion.
Questions:
[1] How is armor break applied?
It is a state, you hit with the special and your target is armour broken.
[2] What part of the body does armor break hit?
It is a state, therefore all. It is unimportant where the AB special hits. It just needs to be applied
[3] Does armor break always hit the same body part?
Most likely not, but not important
[4] If armor break hits a random body part, then an all armor pieces need to be sliced against it?
The slice has nothing to do with the special to apply armour break
[5] If amor break, technically hits "All" parts at one time to land its complete state, then why doesn't one single armor break slice on one piece of armor suffice?
The slice has nothing to do with the special to apply armour break
[6] If armor break once applied, allows a stronger attack to the entire body, is it not entirely wrong to think that the inital armor break attack hits the entire body thus allowing only a 1 piece of armor to be sliced to get the chance of "saving"
The slice has nothing to do with the special to apply armour break!!!!!!!!!!!!
[7] If armor break hits only 1 body part, every time to make the "armor break" state active, then slicing that 1 piece of armor only should work right? Clarify: armor break always hits the chest, but allows all attacks to any part of the body to take the effect. Odd?
It is a state, therefore affects the complete body
Closing: Essentially what I am trying to understand is really simple. You say armor break applies the state. Thats fine, but where is the hit location to apply the state? One body part? If so, is it always the same body part? Armor Break slice protect that one only, and your done. Hits the entire body? Would you not be able to merely slice 1 piece of armor only and get the same effect because it detects that piece?
Or am I completely misunderstand how this works. Bear in mind, I talked to quite a few people and everyone appears to be confused, and have extremely varying opinions. Please comment...
Alright now to explain how it works...
Armour Break is a state, states affect the complete body once you have the state Armour Break on you, the following happens
- You get hit in the right bracer
- Genereal damage is calculated
- States get checked, you are ABed, so more damage
- AB slice check, it is so the additional damage gets reduced by 0%(i.e. Not AB sliced at all),25%, 50% or 75%
- Armour check, reducing of damage
- Reduce health bar by calculated damage
Hope you get the general idea. It is not that complicated.
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