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Thread: I dont get this. Why can smugglers go imperial without penalty? THere's no reason to be a rebel
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Surseance
Wed May 26, 2004 11:55 pm
#1
Neutral is possible. I am in a neutral PA. It is a very smugglerish PA. Sure, I am imp. And my neighbour on my right hand is a rebel, on my other hand I have a neutral, and a stone-throw away there lives a french bounty hunter with a dog named Chocu.
It is possible tomimick neutral smuggling here very much.
Here's a thought for you: Ok lets say youre a smuggler. You choose rebel. You want to sell rebel faction points. What you do is actually help Imperials to defect or supply rebels with equipment. Thats kind of like smuggling. If you want a true neutral kind of stand - ally with an imperial smuggler. Together you will be able to let people defect to any side and get equipment easily.
Sound better now?
Pablao
Thu May 27, 2004 5:10 pm
#2
HAH! You make me laugh, this game baised towards imperials? You know this is based off Star Wars right? You know the movies about a young Rebel who indirectly killing the Emperor. You got faction farm oppertunity, numbers, and secret dev support (cough cough cries of aldreaan part 3). I think its pretty much even, imps getting more obvious perks while the rebs get subtle, yet no less powerful perks.
Any I think its stupid to smuggle things past your sub ordenates anyway.
Pablao
Thu May 27, 2004 5:11 pm
#3
HAH! You make me laugh, this game baised towards imperials? You know this is based off Star Wars right? You know the movies about a young Rebel who indirectly killing the Emperor. You got faction farm oppertunity, numbers, and secret dev support (cough cough cries of aldreaan part 3). I think its pretty much even, imps getting more obvious perks while the rebs get subtle, yet no less powerful perks.
AnywayI think its stupid to smuggle things past your sub ordenates anyway.
bigredsage
Fri May 28, 2004 12:40 am
#4
RPtheHotrod...
I'm not sure why you don't get this... Maybe it's 'cause you are a new player...
Why would there be incentive for ANYONE to go neutral or rebel? Any incentive? Lets see, the rebels are trying to overthrow the government... That IS the incentive. Would anyone in their right mind join a terrorist organisation that fights against the rightful government, if they didn't really want to? As to neutral, the incentive here is that you will never, ever, have to PvP unless you want to, and agree to it (or are stupid, and get a tef from healing/trading/etc) and that you can sell to both sides.
The imperials are the ruling force in the galaxy, according to the storyline. So, anyone growing up in the galaxy has the opportunity to join the Imperial Navy, and so on. Sure, there may be corruption and such, but what better place for a smuggler to not only survive, but to flourish? So anyone(not just smugglers)who goes imperial gets access to better equimpent (In theory... in reality, ATST are a joke for anything beyond getting better missions)
Every smuggler in the game can sell faction. However, if that smuggler gets promoted to a higher rank, through a lot of work or money, I might add, they get a bonus when selling that faction, at the expense of not being able to sell to the other side.
I really don't see the problem here, other than, "I don't want to be Imperial, but I want to have something cool!"
Arabis..
Master Smuggler
RpTheHotrod
Fri May 28, 2004 3:59 am
#5
The incentive for Rebels is to overthrow the Empire? Come on, man...you and I both know that isn't even possible in the game at the moment. What are you overthrowing? NPCs? Is that Imperial town going to be taken over and made Rebel? Of coarse not...it's designed to stay a certain way to maintain a timeline in the Star Wars universe.
Now...maybe if there was real territory control.....there would be incentive...but at the moment...there are imperial harvesters right next to rebel harvesters all the time....and imperials and rebels walking in and out of eachother's towns.
RpTheHotrod
Fri May 28, 2004 4:03 am
#6
Er...let me put it this way.
Take away all the roleplay and look at how it is
3 sides
Smuggler-wise.....
Side A
fined when caught
Extra Pet
Side B
No Combat, reduced ability to sell faction
No Combat, reduced ability to sell faction
Side C
Killed when caught
that's just how it is
Just saying, shouldn't there be some type of tangible "bonus" for being in EACH faction? Sure, Imperials can have a bigger bigger bonus to make it more appealing, I have no problem with that. What I'm just kinda not happy about is that there is really no other reason to join the other factions (discluding friends...roleplay...or numbers...I mean tangible reasons).
Arryth
Fri May 28, 2004 4:36 am
#7
That and the fact...and listen cause it is a FACT..that rebels outnumber imperials on almost every server...on a gond number of them the numbers are heavily in favor of the rebs....
Gavvot
Fri May 28, 2004 4:42 am
#8
Neutrals usually have penalties in all the MMO I've been playing.
In fact, to be more correct, choose a side give you bonus, and it should stay that way.
As for the AT-ST, it has nothing to do with smuggler, it's not related at all.
Imperial have AT-ST because they're imperial.
For rebel bonus, dunno, I'm an Imp, but I don't see why they should have a bonus, they're not organized,they're not the leading force, they're not the empire.
For the scanning issue, even before I was a smuggler, I've been scanned several times, never paid a fine. Guess why? because I'm an high rank imperial officer, and that just make sence.
People join the rebels because they want to.
I didn't joined the empire to have nice toys and avoid fines, I joined the empire to serve the emperor.
For the imperial/rebel ratio, imperial are outnumbered on every server except the 3 european servers (one behing 50/50 I think).
Maybe you should try other planets, all the planet are not crowded with imperial, some are even crowded with rebels
In fact, to be more correct, choose a side give you bonus, and it should stay that way.
As for the AT-ST, it has nothing to do with smuggler, it's not related at all.
Imperial have AT-ST because they're imperial.
For rebel bonus, dunno, I'm an Imp, but I don't see why they should have a bonus, they're not organized,they're not the leading force, they're not the empire.
For the scanning issue, even before I was a smuggler, I've been scanned several times, never paid a fine. Guess why? because I'm an high rank imperial officer, and that just make sence.
People join the rebels because they want to.
I didn't joined the empire to have nice toys and avoid fines, I joined the empire to serve the emperor.
For the imperial/rebel ratio, imperial are outnumbered on every server except the 3 european servers (one behing 50/50 I think).
Maybe you should try other planets, all the planet are not crowded with imperial, some are even crowded with rebels
Message Edited by Gavvot on 05-28-2004 01:44 PM
Xarche
Fri May 28, 2004 5:38 am
#9
*shrug*
I chose Imperial because in Beta I had thought everyone and there brother was going to be a Rebel. Two consecutive Astromech statistic posts later, and I was right. Rebels outnumber Imperials on every server. Some by margins upwards of 2 to 1. I wanted a challange to always be hunted, outnumbered, and outgunned.
From an RP standpoint, I am not really a smuggler, I am more of an operative. Spies learn the "tools of the trade" just as much as smugglers do. Thief, Scout, Smuggler, Spy, whatever. I use my connections in the underworld to help out my fellow imperial (buy faction points), I use my abilities to manufacture "enhancement drugs" to make the soliders of the empire better/faster/stronger (spice), and when the going gets tough, I get the heck out of dodge fast and let the other professions take the heat (dirty fighting).
To say we ALL have to be Han Solo is short sighted. To say we ALL have to conform to one or anothers vision of what a smuggler is or is not is again dangerously short sighted. Our toons are who we make them out to be. There are smugglers here (like myself) that have been a Master Smuggler from early release and will stay that way forever. There are smugglers here who are just dabblers to get slicing terminals for better payouts, or dirty fighting to become better pistol users, etc. There are Fanbois, there are visionaries, and there are han-solo wannabes. But who am I, or anyone, to say someone else is not playing it "right".
To answer the original posters question, there are many valid reasons for being an Imperial Smuggler, but I'll leave it up to you to figure out your own path.
I chose Imperial because in Beta I had thought everyone and there brother was going to be a Rebel. Two consecutive Astromech statistic posts later, and I was right. Rebels outnumber Imperials on every server. Some by margins upwards of 2 to 1. I wanted a challange to always be hunted, outnumbered, and outgunned.
From an RP standpoint, I am not really a smuggler, I am more of an operative. Spies learn the "tools of the trade" just as much as smugglers do. Thief, Scout, Smuggler, Spy, whatever. I use my connections in the underworld to help out my fellow imperial (buy faction points), I use my abilities to manufacture "enhancement drugs" to make the soliders of the empire better/faster/stronger (spice), and when the going gets tough, I get the heck out of dodge fast and let the other professions take the heat (dirty fighting).
To say we ALL have to be Han Solo is short sighted. To say we ALL have to conform to one or anothers vision of what a smuggler is or is not is again dangerously short sighted. Our toons are who we make them out to be. There are smugglers here (like myself) that have been a Master Smuggler from early release and will stay that way forever. There are smugglers here who are just dabblers to get slicing terminals for better payouts, or dirty fighting to become better pistol users, etc. There are Fanbois, there are visionaries, and there are han-solo wannabes. But who am I, or anyone, to say someone else is not playing it "right".
To answer the original posters question, there are many valid reasons for being an Imperial Smuggler, but I'll leave it up to you to figure out your own path.
Ipseck
Fri May 28, 2004 6:14 am
#10
I don't think people normally evaluate "hey what cool stuff do I get if I join this faction". Its more akin to choosing a political party. You don't (or shouldn't) pick a party that's just going to give you stuff (we'd all be democrats if that were the case....). You choose your side based on your philosophical viewpoints, things that cannot be touched or bought. Some smugglers work for the rebellion because the empire is 'the man' and as such is inherrantly bad. Thats actually the same reason I work for the empire... 'The Man' keeps order and laws. Without laws, there's no illegal items and nothing to smuggle 
Message Edited by Ipseck on 05-28-2004 06:14 AM
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