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Thread: CH Changes Point Possible Smuggler Revamp Direction?

BluebloodUK
Tue Jul 26, 2005 2:26 am
#1

CH just got a form of revamp on the Test Server. Apparently, those who know say it's pretty much a rip-off of WoW's Hunter class' abilities.


If thats right, and this is the direction SWG is going (WoW in a SWG Universe), it's not unfeasible to imagine that a possible Smuggler Revamp will turn us into clones of WoW's Rogue class - 'stealth' and so forth; maybe our version of Force Cloak (seeing as TK has their version of Force Armour) useful against NPCs/Faction(?)


Its only a thought, of course, and I'm obviously assuming too much with regards to SOEs consideration to this sadly emaciated profession....but keep your eyes peeled, just in case I'm right.


Its been known to happen. Heh.


For me, it's too late. I'm disheartened with the whole thing, and I won't be pouring over the Forums much. CoH has my money and my loyalty. Only if there is a spectacular reversal of Customer Service, Communication and Fun re-injected into this MMO will I ever consider returning.




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The reason droids aren't welcome in cantinas

They tell ya, "never hit a man with a closed fist", but it is - on occasion - hilarious.

SmugglerPie
Tue Jul 26, 2005 3:34 am
#2

I'm glad the CH's got some lovin'. They've been needing it as much as we have.


But I'm still pissed that we haven't heard jack about our Smuggling.


Want me to come back, SOE? Give me my damn Smuggling!



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My account payment has been moved to a long term implementation.
coldreboot
Tue Jul 26, 2005 3:39 am
#3

If they are going to rip off Rogue for anything, it'll be Rangers - not Smugglers.



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BluebloodUK
Tue Jul 26, 2005 4:34 am
#4






SmugglerPie wrote:

I'm glad the CH's got some lovin'. They've been needing it as much as we have.


But I'm still pissed that we haven't heard jack about our Smuggling.


Want me to come back, SOE? Give me my damn Smuggling!






Oh, I'm dead chuffed CHs have this change. My partner-in-crime is a CH, and their bugs/nerfed gutted her much-loved profession. She's also an honourary Smuggler, since she's always fighting our corner. /tiphat


Speaking of which, she's created a CoH pirate char on Pinnacle to participate in our Smuggler exodus: Mad Dog Melons! LOL


But nothing...nothing even a "Hey there... We havent forgotten you!" amid our continous calls for information has to be the most disgusting blazing beacon of imcompetence yet.


If you're not ashamed so far SOE, you should be.




Captain Siid Vicious
Ill-fated scoundrel & long-suffering owner of Nancy the R2 unit
The reason droids aren't welcome in cantinas

They tell ya, "never hit a man with a closed fist", but it is - on occasion - hilarious.

ApollyonTB
Tue Jul 26, 2005 4:37 am
#5






BluebloodUK wrote:

CH just got a form of revamp on the Test Server. Apparently, those who know say it's pretty much a rip-off of WoW's Hunter class' abilities.


If thats right, and this is the direction SWG is going (WoW in a SWG Universe), it's not unfeasible to imagine that a possible Smuggler Revamp will turn us into clones of WoW's Rogue class - 'stealth' and so forth; maybe our version of Force Cloak (seeing as TK has their version of Force Armour) useful against NPCs/Faction(?)


Its only a thought, of course, and I'm obviously assuming too much with regards to SOEs consideration to this sadly emaciated profession....but keep your eyes peeled, just in case I'm right.


Its been known to happen. Heh.


For me, it's too late. I'm disheartened with the whole thing, and I won't be pouring over the Forums much. CoH has my money and my loyalty. Only if there is a spectacular reversal of Customer Service, Communication and Fun re-injected into this MMO will I ever consider returning.





OK, its all good that other professions might be getting the love...but uh....notto be an ass, but Im not a CH....now if I was a CH, and I was allowed to use pets for two years, yeah they would deserve it more than I.....but really. I look at this and in essence I see another delay in the smuggler love...



teh Tee-Bagger
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BluebloodUK
Tue Jul 26, 2005 4:44 am
#6






ApollyonTB wrote:


OK, its all good that other professions might be getting the love...but uh....notto be an ass, but Im not a CH....now if I was a CH, and I was allowed to use pets for two years, yeah they would deserve it more than I.....but really. I look at this and in essence I see another delay in the smuggler love...






There's nothing I disagree with there. I wasn't really debating that CH got- appallingly - love first (which they did, no question) but rather if we did ever get a revamp, there is a possibility it would follow the format of other MMOs, notably WoW.


I'm not sure Ranger would be the correct translation for WoW's Rogue's abilities, to be honest. But then, it's pretty difficult to pigeon-hole WoW classes to SWG professions; there would bound to be some crossovers/duplication.


But, if you really think about it... A Rogue's stealth vs non-wildlife mobs would be more a Smuggler's role rather than a Ranger. But, obviously, thats open to interpretation.


^

No rant! I'm slipping!




Captain Siid Vicious
Ill-fated scoundrel & long-suffering owner of Nancy the R2 unit
The reason droids aren't welcome in cantinas

They tell ya, "never hit a man with a closed fist", but it is - on occasion - hilarious.

Zombie_Arsani
Tue Jul 26, 2005 4:51 am
#7

While I'm enjoying playing WoW, if SWG becomes a clone of it, then I'll drop SWG. I don't need to be playing two identicle games.



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BluebloodUK
Tue Jul 26, 2005 4:52 am
#8

Arrr! Be definately the weaker of the two, my Damned Damsel of the Sea! Arrr!




Captain Siid Vicious
Ill-fated scoundrel & long-suffering owner of Nancy the R2 unit
The reason droids aren't welcome in cantinas

They tell ya, "never hit a man with a closed fist", but it is - on occasion - hilarious.

ApollyonTB
Tue Jul 26, 2005 4:53 am
#9






Zombie_Arsani wrote:
While I'm enjoying playing WoW, if SWG becomes a clone of it, then I'll drop SWG. I don't need to be playing two identicle games.





but the 'Sani!!! who will watch over the 'Sani? you cant ditch teh 'Sani!!!




pppfffftttt watch me



ARRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!




teh Tee-Bagger
Lover of Beer and Pie
Order 67 - "Every Smuggler is now an enemy of SOE and LucasArts."
(quoted by)
Veela "Her Royal Hawtness"


vendors located at 2110 -4905 outside Mos Eisley
SioBabble
Tue Jul 26, 2005 5:29 pm
#10

Once the CU went live and respec came around, and the level system made it clear that if you wanted to play at the highest level, dabbling was no longer an option...


I respec'ed out of MCH/some BH/some TK to MCH/Smuggler.


Mainly because I'd heard about the upcoming revamp of Smuggler and it sounded way cool. Missions that had consequences if you failed them. Actually moving illegal goods and getting a cut of them to sell. A slicing minigame that required you to pay attention and use your noodle.


All of that sounded great.


So, I dropped a ton of Master Marksman and picked up novice Smuggler and started using post CU double XP to work my way up to the master box.


And waited.


Then pub 19 hit.


And I realized, at that moment, that pub 19 was "the smuggler revamp." And it sucked. "Plan B" was more love for full template Jedi, not any love for smugglers. Making the new slicing tools loot drops sealed the deal. Not only did it cater more to powergamers, it was obvious that the devs considered it to be the "smuggler revamp" in total and that was it.


Now, as a CH, I should be thrilled that we're getting some attention.


But some of the most annoying things about CH, like not being able to command your pet to change targets, or cats unable to keep up with you when you're riding a dewback, are not addressed. Futhermore, this new system is being presented without so much as a mention in the "in concept" forum. At least smugglers got to be given the illusion of some sort of community participation in their revamp. CHs are being told this is it, take it or leave it. They've yet to explain what happens to my friends on my datapad now, too. One of them just turned two years old the other day.


So, hope that you don't get this treatment, that you're given a chance to have a say in your revamp, whenever it hits. Becasue the CHs are getting love, but we're not really sure what kind yet. That remains to be seen.






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riotcontrol
Tue Jul 26, 2005 5:39 pm
#11

From fact #1 - that smuggling doesn't exist in WoW and fact #2, which is that Smuggler combat abilities have pretty much been defined by the CURB changes, I'm inclined to conclude that this is, well, it.



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