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Thread: Thoughts (not necessarily smuggler related but I like you people)

Raanan
Mon Jul 12, 2004 4:10 am
#1

I was playing Jedi Knight 2: Jedi Outcast a little bit ago as my internet was down and I just find it to be a great game. I noticed a couple things though. They have a much different approach to weapons then swg does. In Outcast, pistols are lower damage, slower, but MUCH more accurate then the rifles. The riflesare faster, higher damage, andquite inaccurate. Currently in swg, rifles are the most accurate, carbines are the least, and pistols somewhere in between. Speed is so jacked up in swg, there's not much to say there... It seems to me, SWG uses ballistic weapons physics to define the different ranged weapons while Outcast doesn't but instead treats the weapons as energy weapons (which they are).


I don't know. Maybe it was just the weapons used in Outcast but they really have a starwars feel to them while in swg... ranged weapons just suck. Maybe it'll all be adressed in the ever elusive combat balance. Like I said, I don't know. That and I've got a really killer headache distracting me right now. Anyway, what are your thoughts on this?




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Egowyn
Mon Jul 12, 2004 4:19 am
#2

Whos to say energy weapons wouldn't also have similar accuracy characteristics as balistic wepons?



to me i would think that a weapon that was more accurate and used less resources to create would become the rule and less acurate more cumbersome resource hogging rifles and carbines would become extinct in your example.



now ive played outcast and jedi acadamy, and rifles are much more acurate than the pistols, granted if your firing in rapid fire fullauto your allover the map and rightly so.....but switch to single/semi auto and your cookin with gas baby....in outcast I could snipe baddies at extreem range long before they knew i was in the neigborhood.


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Raanan
Mon Jul 12, 2004 2:54 pm
#3

True, not like I have any experience with energy weapons Maybe they do have the same physics.


Ah, your right but that's mitigated by much less power and much slower. Anyway, it's a mute point. Since I'm not distracted by a headache anymore, I've realised that it's just the weapons in Outcast. They seem to actually follow what the continuity states they should be like.


I would agree but the only rifle more accurate then the pistol in Outcast, is the tenloss. It's a sniper rifle though... can't get more accurate then that. The pistol and the tenloss are the only ones in the game with out a spread even using the primary fire. The rail gun and the umm... forgot the name of it... the big energy rifle with the explosive radius... anyway, they don't count cause you don't have to be any closer then general proximity with the shots




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WesBelden
Mon Jul 12, 2004 3:05 pm
#4

I think you'll find that what you're refering to as rifles are infact carbines (the E-11 for example). The bow caster is very accurate, and the disruptor rifle is extremely accurate (although very slow and you have to stand still to use it effectively).


Although, yes, you're right. Apart from the crazy green things that come out of the bowcaster, I'd say JO and JK:Arepresent SW weapons more accurately (with the exception of lightsabers, SWG seems to represent their damange and AP quite well )



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Egowyn
Tue Jul 13, 2004 3:13 am
#5

my big problem with SWG is that pistols and rifles have same max range....is it just me or is that silly?



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Aafaen
Tue Jul 13, 2004 4:21 am
#6






Egowyn wrote:

my big problem with SWG is that pistols and rifles have same max range....is it just me or is that silly?






Nope its not just you I guess I m silly too.



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