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Thread: Anyone Really tested +Critical+ Strike slices?
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zazo
Wed Aug 03, 2005 6:34 am
#1
Ok I know a bunch are going to say its bugged and what have you but eh...honestly I think its working
really
Ok i've sliced my fwg level 3 dmg slice level 1 spd slice level 1 critical hit slice as a smuggler/pistoleer i do not have a critical hit shot never got the combat spam of getting a critical hit before ...ever
Now since slicing this weapon I get them intermittantly on some mobs and rather often on other mobs I knew prior to doing this slice that the claim was it was bugged and you could do nothing with it but with 3 dmg slices and 1 spd slice it gave me an 85% modification and the only other option was for the level 1 critical hit slice so i figured what the hell right?
anyway I digress. I've been paying attention to the combat spam since the CU in a separate chat window in order to see what does what really and it was really effective so I put it back up because I wanted to see how my slices effected the weapons hits. To the point....
Everytime I get a critical hit on a target my damage in the combat spam is double what the normal hit is now careful on this it is not doubled up in number but spammed twice instantly for example
my shots say something like
zazo hits ns ranger for 470
ns ranger hits zazo for 165
zazo hits ns ranger for 470
ns ranger hits zazo for 145
etc blah blah
but every time i get a +critical+ above the target i notice that the spam doubles up
zazo hits ns ranger for 470
ns ranger hits zazo for 165
zazo hits ns ranger for 470 (critical here)
zazo hits ns ranger for 470
ns ranger hits zazo for 145
etc blah blah
this happens every time rather than doubling the number and making the spam say "zazo hits ns ranger for 940" it just spams it twice instantanly
so im wondering if it really works and we are just missing it?
check it out for yourselves and post your thoughts
Biofinger
Wed Aug 03, 2005 6:39 am
#2
Just tested it:
My DL44 XT with 3% crit using BH's attack Advanced critical strike:
1 out of 4 or 1 out of 5 is critical, and it DOES add damage.
HLC without any critical slice using Advanced critical strike attack:
1 out of 8 or 1 out of 7 is critical, and it DOES add damage.
My DL44 XT again with the crit slice using normal ranged attack:
well... it says 3% so I guess that it is 3 out of 100, but I tested it and it DOESN'T add damage. So it does work for BH's with critical shot, and probably also for critical strike from swordsman, but with another attack it doesn't work.
Pretty clear, this is the situation, and it needs to get fixed!
*edit: So the main point is: Critical doesn't add damage unless it is used with an attack that already does critical damage. This could be intended, this could be a bug.
My DL44 XT with 3% crit using BH's attack Advanced critical strike:
1 out of 4 or 1 out of 5 is critical, and it DOES add damage.
HLC without any critical slice using Advanced critical strike attack:
1 out of 8 or 1 out of 7 is critical, and it DOES add damage.
My DL44 XT again with the crit slice using normal ranged attack:
well... it says 3% so I guess that it is 3 out of 100, but I tested it and it DOESN'T add damage. So it does work for BH's with critical shot, and probably also for critical strike from swordsman, but with another attack it doesn't work.
Pretty clear, this is the situation, and it needs to get fixed!
*edit: So the main point is: Critical doesn't add damage unless it is used with an attack that already does critical damage. This could be intended, this could be a bug.
Message Edited by Biofinger on 08-03-2005 03:40 PM
dlc3007
Wed Aug 03, 2005 6:42 am
#3
I've watchedmy combat spamclosely and have never seen any extra damage on a crit hit. Now, it was a few weeks ago that I was testing it. I'm not saying that they wouldn't sneak an unannounced fix into the game, but given their desperate need for good publicity among forums, I think it'd be a waste if they fixed it and didn't tell us.
zazo
Wed Aug 03, 2005 6:44 am
#4
as i said i'm a pistoleer/smuggler and have no critical shot whatsoever and I get the doubled up damage I've not tested it on just a low level ranged shot but it does work on some of my high dmg specials
I would have no other way of getting the +critical+ spam
coldreboot
Wed Aug 03, 2005 6:53 am
#5
Even if it is working, I think these posts prove that at least needs pumping up a little. It should at least be noticable.
Jaspor
Wed Aug 03, 2005 7:33 am
#6
Interesting, I'll have to check that out, but I suspect your double hits might just be that your attack speed is slightly faster than the target, so you double up on occasion.
That is kind of interesting though... Maybe they screwed up in a way that the weapon critical works differently from the Critical Shot critical and does do double damage just by applying the hit twice? Hrmmm...
Furthuron
Wed Aug 03, 2005 7:52 am
#7
i'll try it out tonight on a renegade pistol where the damage change will be noticeable since mine rarely hits for more than 800. anyone wants this slice done i will do it for cost of parts so we can get some data on whether it is bugged or only good with certain attacks. i am smug/rifle/bh so i will give it a try
sas-quatch
Wed Aug 03, 2005 8:03 am
#8
i use basic crit hit slice on all my guns. over the past month of useing them i have obnly score 1 +critical hit+ and that was last night....so rare in fact i was taken by surprize!!!!
was useing an FWG5 at the time. with all tier one slices
was useing an FWG5 at the time. with all tier one slices
zazo
Wed Aug 03, 2005 1:26 pm
#9
hmmm i wonder if it was lag? dammit
of course the combat chat log is gone because the frickin chat windows dont stay anywhere 
either way need more tests with out a doubt i get the +critical+ message which is something I never got before whether or not it actually does something may be a different story however.
I'll have to play with it tonight
zazo
Thu Aug 04, 2005 12:49 am
#10
Jaspor wrote:
Interesting, I'll have to check that out, but I suspect your double hits might just be that your attack speed is slightly faster than the target, so you double up on occasion.
That is kind of interesting though... Maybe they screwed up in a way that the weapon critical works differently from the Critical Shot critical and does do double damage just by applying the hit twice? Hrmmm...
nope i was very careful to pay close attention to the combat spam rather than the target and there were times with a critical hit the spam put out 4 or 5 in a row maybe its still in the chat window if it is i'll post a screeny
Lonelan
Thu Aug 04, 2005 12:54 am
#11
I was killing lvl 10s-20s using my Featherweight FWG5 (1095 max dmg), using Advanced Reckless Shot which hit the target for about 1500 dmg, which would drop the mob far below half health. It has a 5% critical slice on it, and I saw the -critical- message a few times, but the mob stayed alive and took the hit just like any other mob.
Have yet to try any kind of critical strike.
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