Smuggler Archive
Thread: Proof me please
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averyz
Tue Dec 14, 2004 10:39 am
#1
Will someone please tell me if they see something wrong with these numbers...
www.SWG-Faces.com/smuggler.html
ADVthanksANCE
DrevenStrobe
Tue Dec 14, 2004 12:34 pm
#2
Eh...what are you trying to accomplish?
I'm running an Imperial Surplus operation on Starsider, and I just take my usual 140c / FP and apply it to the cost of the faction perks...and I round up or down to a nice "round" number, depending on my mood...keeps things simpler that way.
Also, I noticed you've got Personel figured in on your table. Your numbers would only work if you were transferring to another Smuggler for that. You can't transfer Personel from player to player. So, your client would have to bank the FP and buy their own personel. And if they're not a Master Smuggler, the discount wouldn't apply.
Check THIS thread for the pricing I'm using on Starsider.
DrevenStrobe
Tue Dec 14, 2004 12:50 pm
#3
One more thing...
"cost" at Colonel for Imperial Faction is 94.4 c / FP... not the 96.6 that you've got figured...
averyz
Tue Dec 14, 2004 2:00 pm
#4
DrevenStrobe wrote:
Ok...upon final review...you're math is all backwards...
Just using the first Data Terminal as an example...here's what I come up with:
Normal FP cost: 560 FP
After MS 25% Discount: 420 FP
At "cost" for Imperial Colonel ( x 94.4 cpu): 39648 (might as well say 40k)
Add in your 30% markup: 52000
Profit: 12000
Final cpu based on normal FP cost (which is what it looked like you were doing): ~93 cpu
Final cpu based on MS cost: ~124 cpu
it's 96.6 until you delegate to the person which then turns to 113.9
All those different columns are for different junk...
smuggler -> buyer
smuggler -> alt -> smuggler
smuggler -> smuggler
I can't use the 96.6 cpu because I can't hold enough faction to by anything with the person who buys it... I have to delete it.. how come I get 96.6 cpu and u get 93?
averyz
Tue Dec 14, 2004 2:01 pm
#5
DrevenStrobe wrote:
What's the x2 multiplier for?
Oh I think I made that for when you delegate it twice
like..
smuggler -> alt -> back to smuggler (which is still cheaper then making the alt buy it with out being master smuggler)
averyz
Tue Dec 14, 2004 2:03 pm
#6
bah 96.6 is my number after the delegate ratio.. lol I get like 80 cpu before that... grrrrrr , screw this smuggler stuff who the hell would waste this time on it.. soe ruined smuggler anyways 
DigiDante
Tue Dec 14, 2004 2:51 pm
#7
Another thing, you cannot trade faction pets. (last i heard atleast, unless they changed this again)
Message Edited by DigiDante on 12-14-2004 01:51 PM
DrevenStrobe
Tue Dec 14, 2004 3:16 pm
#8
averyz wrote:
bah 96.6 is my number after the delegate ratio.. lol I get like 80 cpu before that... grrrrrr , screw this smuggler stuff who the hell would waste this time on it.. soe ruined smuggler anyways
80 x 1.18 = 94.4
And as far as your Smuggler --> Alt --> Smuggler thing...
I just bypassed all of that and made my alt a 4/0/0/0 Smuggler. That way, my alt buys theFP and transfers it to my main MS. Then, I buy the perks with my MS. One transfer...no double dipping.
Plus, for pure FP purchases, I can set my client up with my alt while I take my main out and actually do other things if I so choose. So, it's a win / win all the way around.
DrevenStrobe
Wed Dec 15, 2004 1:07 am
#9
Ok...upon final review...you're math is all backwards...
Just using the first Data Terminal as an example...here's what I come up with:
Normal FP cost: 560 FP
After MS 25% Discount: 420 FP
At "cost" for Imperial Colonel ( x 94.4 cpu): 39648 (might as well say 40k)
Add in your 30% markup: 52000
Profit: 12000
Final cpu based on normal FP cost (which is what it looked like you were doing): ~93 cpu
Final cpu based on MS cost: ~124 cpu
Eulbobo
Wed Dec 15, 2004 4:06 am
#11
There is my tarification sheet
TO buy stuffs, i'm a master smuggler colonel and imperial using a master smuggler
I buy FP, i deleguate them (94.4 credits per FP) to the other master smuggler that buys the item
Name Nc Sc Dc Mp Sale Benef
Helmet 2100 1575 1859 148680 226800 78120
chest 3500 2625 3098 247800 378000 130200
Pants 2100 1575 1859 148680 226800 78120
L bicep 1400 1050 1239 99120 151200 52080
R bicep 1400 1050 1239 99120 151200 52080
L arm 1400 1050 1239 99120 151200 52080
R arm 1400 1050 1239 99120 151200 52080
boots 1400 1050 1239 99120 151200 52080
gloves 1400 1050 1239 99120 151200 52080
belts 1400 1050 1239 99120 151200 52080
Nc : normal cost for human imperials non humans
Sc : cost for human master smuggler
Dc : cost including deleguate process (1.18 factor)
Mp : minimal price : no benefits to sale at this price
Sale : at a 144 credits/PF for the smuggler
Benefits : to cut in two and each part goes to each smuggler involved in the buy process (that's how i work)
To have Mp, you take Sc*94.4 or Dc*80 since Dc already includes deleguate tax
To have sale price : you take Sc*144
TO buy stuffs, i'm a master smuggler colonel and imperial using a master smuggler
I buy FP, i deleguate them (94.4 credits per FP) to the other master smuggler that buys the item
Name Nc Sc Dc Mp Sale Benef
Helmet 2100 1575 1859 148680 226800 78120
chest 3500 2625 3098 247800 378000 130200
Pants 2100 1575 1859 148680 226800 78120
L bicep 1400 1050 1239 99120 151200 52080
R bicep 1400 1050 1239 99120 151200 52080
L arm 1400 1050 1239 99120 151200 52080
R arm 1400 1050 1239 99120 151200 52080
boots 1400 1050 1239 99120 151200 52080
gloves 1400 1050 1239 99120 151200 52080
belts 1400 1050 1239 99120 151200 52080
Nc : normal cost for human imperials non humans
Sc : cost for human master smuggler
Dc : cost including deleguate process (1.18 factor)
Mp : minimal price : no benefits to sale at this price
Sale : at a 144 credits/PF for the smuggler
Benefits : to cut in two and each part goes to each smuggler involved in the buy process (that's how i work)
To have Mp, you take Sc*94.4 or Dc*80 since Dc already includes deleguate tax
To have sale price : you take Sc*144
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