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Thread: To the smugglers...

jball2k
Sat Feb 19, 2005 12:19 pm
#1

Guys, I know this nerf really sucks for you. I wish FD would've at least been moved to the Master box.


But you have to remember, it's only on TC.


Nothing is set in stone yet, maybe the devs realize this is a mistake and will fix it


This is comming from a Jedi Knight, not a crying BH.





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yimaz
Sat Feb 19, 2005 12:26 pm
#2

The Jei community does not have the balls to speak about it, the BH community gives us a tuff sh*t attidude about it so when a jedi or BH come into our forum with something nice to say THAT jedi or BH has my thanks and respect. Thank you.....



Yimayz Samoot
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jball2k
Sat Feb 19, 2005 12:32 pm
#3






yimaz wrote:

The Jei community does not have the balls to speak about it, the BH community gives us a tuff sh*t attidude about it so when a jedi or BH come into our forum with something nice to say THAT jedi or BH has my thanks and respect. Thank you.....





I don't think you guys should be mad at the Jedi


If the Jedi didn't have the xp loss, we wouldn't have this problem.


Everyone would be a lot happier if Jedi didn't have it, Jedi wouldn't be afraid to fight (thus not using FD) and the BHs could hunt their marks w/o fear of FD or hiding behind their gank squads.


Jedi took it as a legit skill



But if I had a master smuggler toon, I'd be frious right now


Message Edited by jball2k on 02-19-2005 11:32 AM




SWG:
Elrohim Sunrunner, Former Dark Jedi Knight and Himura- Kenshin, Master Armorsmith.
(gnn[[[[[[[[[[]nnnWX9ggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg)

WoW:
Luci, 60 Mage of Advent

Ternque01
Sat Feb 19, 2005 12:41 pm
#4






jball2k wrote:






yimaz wrote:

The Jei community does not have the balls to speak about it, the BH community gives us a tuff sh*t attidude about it so when a jedi or BH come into our forum with something nice to say THAT jedi or BH has my thanks and respect. Thank you.....





I don't think you guys should be mad at the Jedi


If the Jedi didn't have the xp loss, we wouldn't have this problem.


Everyone would be a lot happier if Jedi didn't have it, Jedi wouldn't be afraid to fight (thus not using FD) and the BHs could hunt their marks w/o fear of FD or hiding behind their gank squads.


Jedi took it as a legit skill



But if I had a master smuggler toon, I'd be frious right now



Message Edited by jball2k on 02-19-2005 11:32 AM






Moving FD to the master box would be a poor design decision. Jedi xp loss is an intended game design to make Jedi be a real challenge. You will never see me blame Jedi xp loss for a FD nerf.


The logic breaks down that fear of xp loss lead to FD's rampant use, but the most logical action would not be to eliminate the fear of xp loss, but to alter FD so it wouldn't be used to ease that fear.


Fear is something that Jedi need to learn how to control if they are going to be anything near, in my eyes, to being worthy of being considered a Jedi in SWG.




Axob Freelight
The non-Jedi are extinct. Their fire has gone out of the universe.
Nicolas_Frost
Sat Feb 19, 2005 12:45 pm
#5



jball2k wrote:


yimaz wrote:
The Jei community does not have the balls to speak about it, the BH community gives us a tuff sh*t attidude about it so when a jedi or BH come into our forum with something nice to say THAT jedi or BH has my thanks and respect. Thank you.....


I don't think you guys should be mad at the Jedi

If the Jedi didn't have the xp loss, we wouldn't have this problem.

Everyone would be a lot happier if Jedi didn't have it, Jedi wouldn't be afraid to fight (thus not using FD) and the BHs could hunt their marks w/o fear of FD or hiding behind their gank squads.

Jedi took it as a legit skill

But if I had a master smuggler toon, I'd be frious right now

Message Edited by jball2k on 02-19-2005 11:32 AM





Jedi have experience loss because its supposed to be not only a difficult, but an accomplishment to become a Jedi. Jedi were built for PvP and a class made for that cannot be allowed to have a "You can't kill me" button. I actually don't mind this change so much as the rest of the community. Feign Death was a lame move to use in PvP already. Nobody thought you were dead. It did have a tactical advantage in larger fights, but only to the point of you hoping that the guy attacking you gets bored and goes after someone else. Its very lame to feign death simply to stop a deathblow. Seriously, you went PvP for the fight, whether you're factional or Jedi. The loss of experience or PvP rating is your risk. The victory you get is the reward. Too many people wanna just blot out the risk factor and jump straight to the reward.



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Kamileon
Sat Feb 19, 2005 12:46 pm
#6








jball2k wrote:


I don't think you guys should be mad at the Jedi


If the Jedi didn't have the xp loss, we wouldn't have this problem.


Everyone would be a lot happier if Jedi didn't have it, Jedi wouldn't be afraid to fight (thus not using FD) and the BHs could hunt their marks w/o fear of FD or hiding behind their gank squads.





Hell, I was perfectly fine with permadeath. Cry me a midichlorian river about damned xp loss.

Jedi should be quakin' in their robes afraid of the Empire and Bounty Hunters. Being a Jedi should be HARD. It should be damned hard, hunted, persecuted, and outcast.



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Nicolas_Frost
Sat Feb 19, 2005 12:50 pm
#7


Ternque01 wrote:


jball2k wrote:


yimaz wrote:
The Jei community does not have the balls to speak about it, the BH community gives us a tuff sh*t attidude about it so when a jedi or BH come into our forum with something nice to say THAT jedi or BH has my thanks and respect. Thank you.....


I don't think you guys should be mad at the Jedi

If the Jedi didn't have the xp loss, we wouldn't have this problem.

Everyone would be a lot happier if Jedi didn't have it, Jedi wouldn't be afraid to fight (thus not using FD) and the BHs could hunt their marks w/o fear of FD or hiding behind their gank squads.

Jedi took it as a legit skill

But if I had a master smuggler toon, I'd be frious right now

Message Edited by jball2k on 02-19-2005 11:32 AM



Moving FD to the master box would be a poor design decision. Jedi xp loss is an intended game design to make Jedi be a real challenge. You will never see me blame Jedi xp loss for a FD nerf.

The logic breaks down that fear of xp loss lead to FD's rampant use, but the most logical action would not be to eliminate the fear of xp loss, but to alter FD so it wouldn't be used to ease that fear.

Fear is something that Jedi need to learn how to control if they are going to be anything near, in my eyes, to being worthy of being considered a Jedi in SWG.






Exactly. Those players; not just Jedi, nor Bounty Hunters; that templated themselves on Feign Death are wannabes in my eyes. If they can't own up to the fact that they have to be careful and/or not show off, then too bad. I'm a Smuggler/Teras Kasi Artist/Gunfighter. I'm not templating myself for any specific skill, while I do use some more than others. If I'd gone 4000 TKA just for /meditate and /powerboost, then I would be guilty of that.



Jaecob Maragi
Babelonian Militia Captain
Master Smuggler and Alliance Pilot
Captain of the LongShot(2)
THE Official Smuggler Forum Smartass!
The prices of my services are based on "tolerance". The more I have to tolerate you, the more you have to pay me.


HiJiiNks
Sat Feb 19, 2005 2:53 pm
#8

I dont blame the jedi for the up coming nerf

But i do Blame the BH

there have been post from DEV and CSR

saying that FD is working like it should,

But every day all you see on the BH forum is a BIGGEST CRY about FD

there has been many post obout FD but magicly now it a Bug

All i see is the BH getting every thing thay want and i getting sick of BH

we smuggler been waiting a long time to get are patch

with new spice and are slicing but NO!!




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JTGAlpha
Sat Feb 19, 2005 3:15 pm
#9

You mean a Jedi Knight who was using a move that wasn't meant for them so they can get an edge in their fococta war with the bounty hunters giving the devs a REASON to nerf us?


It's set in stone. It's going through. It's over. Thanks a bunch and all, but just let us mope and move along.



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