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Thread: is last ditch any good?

LordKittycat0
Mon Oct 24, 2005 4:04 pm
#1

Does it do alot of damage or does it suck?


flounder05
Mon Oct 24, 2005 4:24 pm
#2

It does alot of damage, but only when you're HAM is really low. Like one hit from incap low.



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CrespoOfBria
Mon Oct 24, 2005 5:10 pm
#3

It really isnt all that hot



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BeigeKnight
Mon Oct 24, 2005 5:15 pm
#4

I hope this isn't what I think it's about.


A warning: Look for a certain profession swinging glowsticks(not entertainer) possibily taking up the LD nerf calling again. Of course they don't see that the real problem is the SL buffs(nothing against Squad Leaders. I haven't gathered enough info on the whole thing to make a decision either way).


Example:

http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=jedi&message.id=1301502



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SugarWhite
Mon Oct 24, 2005 6:17 pm
#5






LordKittycat0 wrote:

Does it do alot of damage or does it suck?








I got tired of waiting on the smuggler revamp. To my own great surprise, I somehow unlocked jedi a few months ago on my main toon. So I decided to try that. I can always grind the new alt to smug again. I'm just bored to death playing the waiting game, so I decided to bore myself even more by doing this horrid grind.


I know. I'm a horrible person.


Moving on, I dropped TKM before I started dropping smuggler, thinking, hey, I'll have master defender soon, I can use avoid incap with last ditch and have a little fun when/if a BH comes for me. (And I really really really was sad about dropping smuggler, even though I still have master smugglers on Bria and Naritus. But that's beside the point.)


Only, I tried using last ditch in a duel with a friend. I never got it to hit for more than 300 points, even with that crispic stuff in mah belly to increase my accuracy, and a few nice accuracy attachments on my person. And yes, my health bar was below 20 percent.


I ended the duel and immediately started ranting about the jedi who have gone on and on and on wanting last ditch nerfed. I was beyond pissed.


I don't know whose arse I would have to /kiss to get last ditch to work for me for these SUPPOSED 3,000-4,000 pointsI keep hearing about, but I obviously haven't been kissing the right one. I think getting last ditch to hit hard would be a super-rare thing... and it's a shot I would only fire as a very last resort, just as the description in game indicates. Getting it to hit at all is rare, much less the super one-hit-incap shots.


I would NOT base my template around that onevery inconsistentshot. Get sniper shot from the rifle line -- I think it would be far more consistent, even if you did not pair it with a SL buff. Unless, of course, you really want to be a smuggler -- they are kinda cool, just not functional for actual smuggling.




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ProzacRefugee
Mon Oct 24, 2005 6:26 pm
#6

Question - have any other smuggler/commandos noticed LD not working with AOE attacks? Whenever I use it with a commando weapon LD does about 17 points of damage, even when my health is almost all gone.



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Hetnikik
Mon Oct 24, 2005 7:06 pm
#7






ProzacRefugee wrote:
Question - have any other smuggler/commandos noticed LD not working with AOE attacks? Whenever I use it with a commando weapon LD does about 17 points of damage, even when my health is almost all gone.




Haven't tryed but that would be awsome hitting 5 guys for 4000 each



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SaQa
Tue Oct 25, 2005 2:15 am
#8

i have done 9000+ dam on a npc migth be bugged migth not i dont care i just know i saved my life rather an incap than a death blow


so you guys can call it what you want but i think it is one of the best smuggler attack there is the shot is a symbol of all that smuggler stands for cheating death like mist other shots you got as smuggler


i just think that your mind and action pool also count in how hard you hit more drained more damage



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Ihovo
Tue Oct 25, 2005 4:02 am
#9

totally agree with SaQa, its a LAST ditch, and it works pretty well does a LOT of damage when ya use it in the right moment, and it can save ya ass in situations NOTHING ELSE can do! It helped me incapping unscratched Players that were whoping my ass, and also saved my ass in PvE against too strong Monsters! (Also in PvE its not THAT usefull cause of the increddible high HAM of most high lvl critters)


There is NO special that gives me this filthy smuggler feeling like the Last Ditch does!


BaronJuJu
Tue Oct 25, 2005 4:25 am
#10


Malaki wrote:


I hope this isn't what I think it's about.


A warning: Look for a certain profession swinging glowsticks(not entertainer) possibily taking up the LD nerf calling again. Of course they don't see that the real problem is the SL buffs(nothing against Squad Leaders. I haven't gathered enough info on the whole thing to make a decision either way).


Example:

http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=jedi&message.id=1301502




You may be right there...saw this on the Jedi forums


So Squad Leaders can hit a FULL TEMPLATE JEDI for over 4000 damage now!
http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=jedi&message.id=1303093


Quote:


This is just a warning to all full template jedi..

Patch 24 now allows a full template jedi to be hit for 4000+ damage (1 shot incapped) by players using a combination of SL buffs and high damage shots.

Like.. examples.. MBH MSL 4000 rifles oranything with last ditch and MSL.

I wouldn't play on your jedi until this fiasco gets sorted out.

Last night lots of people were having this happen to them on ventrilo and its not just something that affects jedi.. it affects everyone.

You're especially in trouble if you dont have any ranged defense or armor..




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darevsool
Tue Oct 25, 2005 9:38 am
#11

Did this back in May:


http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=smuggler&message.id=176253



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BattleSw0rd
Tue Oct 25, 2005 12:28 pm
#12

in all my experiments with LD....its an attack thats not worth it...it burns all ur stats in a "dice roll" to hit for an extraordianry amount...but the risk is too high for the potential reward....some will disagree...but this is jus my opinion



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OmegaZeuS
Tue Oct 25, 2005 7:21 pm
#13

considering our normal "special attacks" reduce our defense, yea, LD is fine the way it is.


Oddly enough, I get my ass kicked whenever someone else uses it against me but whenever I try it out I do 10 damage and get real friendly with the ground... I've never gotten LD to work properly but I did manage to get to such a point in my health that I wasn't able to use it due to "lack of pool points"



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