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Thread: Low Blow: Not what I expected

Motoko-Aurora
Mon Oct 24, 2005 9:17 pm
#1

I recently switched my template completely around. In all my time in SWG I have had 3 templates on my main. I was a CM Rifleman pre-cu, through every nerf of loot of special, up to the very end. Then I went MBH Pistoleer and wreaked havoc on Jedi for a couple of weeks until they made it unplayable for me. Since I never intended to hunt another Jedi I realized that my template just didnt match my playstyle anymore. I had excellent stats, helped by a rediculously well equipped suit of ADKd server capped Faction Armor, but I just wasnt doing what I wanted.


And so I switched. Switching is a big thing for me. So I read up, used a profession calculator for about 2 dozen template options, and then I went for it.


Master Commando Master Smuggler 0444 Pistols with the FS Ranged Speed tree. Group support. AOE. Tons of specials.


Intim? Got it.

Snare? Got it.

Stun? Gotit.

Root? Got it.

Mez? Got it.


KD? Got i..... wait a minute. DONT GOT IT.


In the description of Low Blow, every one I read, it said it was a KD move. Except when I finally got the special. It's not. And no other attack I have is either. Am I missing something? Why was a KD option removed? Was another special changed to include KD? Was there a memo about TPS reports that I didnt get?


And in purely logical context, if I shoot you in the gonads, youre going to drop like a boneless chicken. Low Blow should be a KD. Admittedly an attack speed debuff sort of makes sense too..... but there are other areas of Smuggler that need another special or a modified special without sacrifing a STAPLE of combat.



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Cigaran
Mon Oct 24, 2005 9:38 pm
#2

Welcome to our little world... Beer and pie are on the table over there.



As for Low Blow, yes, they yanked the KD part of it for reasons I don't think they ever mentioned. There was a push to get it back a while ago but that has seemed to die off.





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fishbrains
Mon Oct 24, 2005 10:38 pm
#3

I like it better now. -40 to combat speed is far more powerfull for me than a KD.



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Motoko-Aurora
Mon Oct 24, 2005 11:56 pm
#4






fishbrains wrote:
I like it better now. -40 to combat speed is far more powerfull for me than a KD.




Again, I like the attack, but I would not want to trade one for the other. I would prefer to lose something other than that. In my template, using an area of effect weapon with a KD is very effective. Using an area of effect weapon with a combat speed debuff is nice but not as immediately useful.



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EmonOkari
Tue Oct 25, 2005 4:10 am
#5






Motoko-Aurora wrote: Am I missing something? Why was a KD option removed?





Guess.

Message Edited by EmonOkari on 10-25-2005 04:10 AM



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JavelinCatcher
Tue Oct 25, 2005 7:21 am
#6

Technically speaking, you have a knockdown. It's a special from the Rocket launcher. Fire low blow with your Rocket Launcher and you have a knockdown + combat speed reduction.



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Tante
Tue Oct 25, 2005 7:38 am
#7

We could use the special moment to start asking for fixing Low Blow again but since the devs will be busy next month fixing the 30$house expansion we won't get any changes anyways.



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TalKurgan
Tue Oct 25, 2005 9:51 am
#8






JavelinCatcher wrote:
Technically speaking, you have a knockdown. It's a special from the Rocket launcher. Fire low blow with your Rocket Launcher and you have a knockdown + combat speed reduction.




A good friend of mine went commando/smuggler so she could force naptime on her first grade class with a rocket-launched concussion shot.



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Makris
Tue Oct 25, 2005 11:42 am
#9

I was about to point out that an Imperial Smuggler is such an oxymoron... but what about our profession ISN'T an oxymoron these days?
BattleSw0rd
Tue Oct 25, 2005 12:13 pm
#10






Motoko-Aurora wrote:





fishbrains wrote:
I like it better now. -40 to combat speed is far more powerfull for me than a KD.




Again, I like the attack, but I would not want to trade one for the other. I would prefer to lose something other than that. In my template, using an area of effect weapon with a KD is very effective. Using an area of effect weapon with a combat speed debuff is nice but not as immediately useful.





well u have a point...but with the new AI upgrades...area KD is worthless...the NPCs recover from KD almost instantaneously...i prefer the -.40 to speed...stack that with intimidate and ur set...oh and if u can afford to get thyroid rupter...ur lookin at 1.2 seconds slower attack speed...try it...its FUN!....








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danno13
Tue Oct 25, 2005 2:55 pm
#11






JavelinCatcher wrote:
Technically speaking, you have a knockdown. It's a special from the Rocket launcher. Fire low blow with your Rocket Launcher and you have a knockdown + combat speed reduction.






Also technically speaking, all smugglers have the leg sweep KDunder our unarmed tree.


Of course, this is more or less worthless since smuggler is a ranged profession, but we do technically have a KD.





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OmegaZeuS
Tue Oct 25, 2005 7:15 pm
#12






danno13 wrote:






JavelinCatcher wrote:
Technically speaking, you have a knockdown. It's a special from the Rocket launcher. Fire low blow with your Rocket Launcher and you have a knockdown + combat speed reduction.






Also technically speaking, all smugglers have the leg sweep KDunder our unarmed tree.


Of course, this is more or less worthless since smuggler is a ranged profession, but we do technically have a KD.







/sigh...


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HeadRoll
Wed Oct 26, 2005 12:23 am
#13






Motoko-Aurora wrote:



In the description of Low Blow, every one I read, it said it was a KD move. Except when I finally got the special. It's not. And no other attack I have is either. Am I missing something? Why was a KD option removed? Was another special changed to include KD? Was there a memo about TPS reports that I didnt get?




I recently started to play my smuggler again. With low blow, once I land a shot on a pve target, i see the low blow icon showing up on his icon. When I land with another attack the icon disappears. Any reason why? Is it supposed to be this way?

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