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Thread: Need advice on a tricky FP Deal on Eclipse Server
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EnemyOfReality
Wed Aug 10, 2005 4:52 pm
#1
First off, I'm somewhat new to the dealings of FP trading. I would like any of the more experienced guys to tell me if this deal is plausible, profitable and worth the effort. I've been contacted by someone who wants to broker a rather complicated deal and I believe it would require a partnership with an Imperial Smuggler and a good window of time. The person has 109k Imperial Faction points that he'd like to trade in exchange for 75k Rebel Faction points.
Since I haven't done anything regarding FP trading in the time I've been playing, I'm unsure as to how to work this exactly. I was looking at the guide to selling faction points and I got a rough idea of what it may involve. Offhand I'd assume that first a buyer or buyers for the Imp points would be necessary. As a rebel, I figured out that I would have to pay about 6mill credits in order to buy about 75k rebel faction points for the deal if I read correctly. If I'm also not mistaken, 109k Imp Faction points costs about 8.8mill for a smuggler to buy. I do not have the spare money to buy the rebel faction points however. I'm unsure if it would be possible to have an Imperial Smuggler perhaps sell the Imperial points at whatever rate is fair, then some of that money would go towards my buying the rebel faction points, and any profits would be split amongst myself and the other smuggler. Unfortunately I am only a 2nd Lieutenant at the moment so that might be too big of a problem to overcome.
Please tell me if this seemingly daunting task involves too much in comparison to the payout in the end. And if it's worth it, give more insight as to how it could be pulled off. I'd greatly appreciate any advice given. If the deal is do-able and an Imperial Master Smuggler from Eclipse serverwould be interested in this, I'll give it a go.
Drakenya
Wed Aug 10, 2005 5:05 pm
#2
You'd need a partner, as being Reb you can only hold so much Imp faction (1000 I think). Also, if you did get 100k Imp, you couldn't sell it, because you can only sell FP of the faction that you are.
EnemyOfReality
Wed Aug 10, 2005 5:20 pm
#3
Yeah, I know I'd definitely need a partner. I speculated about it in the middle of the paragraph, I should've mentioned that initially though. Unfortunately I still can't edit for a couple more days lol.
apprentice_of_eld
Wed Aug 10, 2005 5:45 pm
#4
the answer to the funding problem is easy. the guy who wants the faction pays you for it first. But, the problem is that you are not a colonel, which means that you would have to purchase 75k rebel faction PLUS whatever FP you would lose in the transaction. I'm not sure the ratio for your rank, and I'm too lazy to look right now. I lied. your conversion rate is 1.667:1, which means that you must buy 125,025 FP to trade him 75k (it costs you 50,025 that are burned up since you're a 2nd Lt.) Now, you can't hold 125,025 FP at one time, even if you're a Col. So it gets even more complicated. To make it worth my time/effort, I'd probably charge the guy 250 credits per FP (250x 75k = 18,750,000 credits) Ok, maybe that's a tad over priced, but you'll want to buy your way up to colonel before trading anyway, right?
EnemyOfReality
Wed Aug 10, 2005 6:19 pm
#5
While initially talking with the customer, it did not seem as if he had the credits to do it that way. Though I'd certainly love to have that much money if only briefly 
Nicolas_Frost
Wed Aug 10, 2005 9:53 pm
#6
If they don't have the credits to pay up front, then the situation is one of four things.
When selling faction, this is what I do.
Get the money up front, taking into account what is lost in transfers. Fly my customer to the Abandoned Rebel Base on Dantooine. If they aren't Rebel yet, I transfer while inside the buiding, untill they can join up and come in.
Not only does this make certain that you get your money, but keeps you safe, because Jedi have started to use Cloak and wait around recruiters of opposing factions.
For Imperials, do the same basic thing, but use the Emperor's Retreat on Naboo.
- Possibly trying to scam you by getting faction up front, and not paying.
- They don't have that kind of money, meaning they wouldn't be able to aford it, no matter how you went about it.
- They're paranoid, and think you're trying to scam them.
- THey're new to faction purchases, and don't know how very expensive it gets.
When selling faction, this is what I do.
Get the money up front, taking into account what is lost in transfers. Fly my customer to the Abandoned Rebel Base on Dantooine. If they aren't Rebel yet, I transfer while inside the buiding, untill they can join up and come in.
Not only does this make certain that you get your money, but keeps you safe, because Jedi have started to use Cloak and wait around recruiters of opposing factions.
For Imperials, do the same basic thing, but use the Emperor's Retreat on Naboo.
Sengis
Thu Aug 11, 2005 3:19 am
#7
apprentice_of_eld wrote:
the answer to the funding problem is easy. the guy who wants the faction pays you for it first. But, the problem is that you are not a colonel, which means that you would have to purchase 75k rebel faction PLUS whatever FP you would lose in the transaction. I'm not sure the ratio for your rank, and I'm too lazy to look right now. I lied. your conversion rate is 1.667:1, which means that you must buy 125,025 FP to trade him 75k (it costs you 50,025 that are burned up since you're a 2nd Lt.) Now, you can't hold 125,025 FP at one time, even if you're a Col. So it gets even more complicated. To make it worth my time/effort, I'd probably charge the guy 250 credits per FP (250x 75k = 18,750,000 credits) Ok, maybe that's a tad over priced, but you'll want to buy your way up to colonel before trading anyway, right?
IMposter, the Real Roland Deschain, is farstars oldest smuggler, well one of em, so shoo go awya
justplainzero
Thu Aug 11, 2005 12:19 pm
#8
ok, im the guy who wants the deal, and im not trying to cheat anybody.... im not a smuggler, ive never dealt in FP, with my brief dealings with smugglers i realised that they can sell FP, then i heard how expensive it is....(and 1/2 ur smugglers dont even know it either,not a flame...just an observation)
i want to go from Imperial to Rebel, and basically not have -5k rebel against me...so i ground up a cow load of FP hoping that i could rather trade the stuff in, rather than buy it...i mean...who would pay 100 : 1 for FP? for FP to actually make a diff, u need about 5k...in higher ranks...im sure i can grind that in 2-3 days, but as a colonel, im rather proud of that and who wants to start off as a pvt again???
i thought that a 109:75 ratio would be a good deal for a smuggler, and 90% of the smugglers said "huh?" when i told them of my idea, 2 guys said it is possible to do, but its hard for them to be online at the same time (partners) so i approached the above poster
and besides...if i were to scam him, whats stopping him from reporting me? i just thought it would be a waste to lost all that faction and if a ratio of 109:75 isnt lucrative...ill drop it down, until it is, then if u can help us, great
besides...ur smugglers!! this kind of backhand deal is what u guys are MADE for, lol
again, this is no scam
i want to go from Imperial to Rebel, and basically not have -5k rebel against me...so i ground up a cow load of FP hoping that i could rather trade the stuff in, rather than buy it...i mean...who would pay 100 : 1 for FP? for FP to actually make a diff, u need about 5k...in higher ranks...im sure i can grind that in 2-3 days, but as a colonel, im rather proud of that and who wants to start off as a pvt again???
i thought that a 109:75 ratio would be a good deal for a smuggler, and 90% of the smugglers said "huh?" when i told them of my idea, 2 guys said it is possible to do, but its hard for them to be online at the same time (partners) so i approached the above poster
and besides...if i were to scam him, whats stopping him from reporting me? i just thought it would be a waste to lost all that faction and if a ratio of 109:75 isnt lucrative...ill drop it down, until it is, then if u can help us, great
besides...ur smugglers!! this kind of backhand deal is what u guys are MADE for, lol
again, this is no scam
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