Smuggler Archive

There's good and bad to it. I think people are just stuck in the past and don't want to adapt to change. Once it settles they'll see the good in it all.

Concussion Shot Changes
Pros:
Very useful in PvP
Very useful against multiple ranged NPCs
Makes smuggler different from pistoleer

Cons:
Much much harder to compete in high end PvE
Breaking on damage is just damned annoying


Slicing Changes
Pros:
Can pick the customization you want
Actually works right unlike post CU slicing with it's lies
Makes uberslices rarer
Better income for smugglers

Cons:
Looted tools are a pain
Another move from player based to loot based economy
God! Having to explain it yet *again* to someone
Lack of consequenses after the fact
Feels like a post production thing for the rich

If I had half a mind - I'd start a secret smuggler website. with cool content for SWG (and real-life cause you crazy fools deserve my respect) smugglers.

lets think of some names for the site... maybe I'll register the domain and do it... then it can only be us elite fools. and if we dont like what someone says - then we'll have no moderators deleting our STHU posts...

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dlc3007 wrote:

Getting close.

I have the sneaky suspicion that most of the crying is coming from people who have been reacting to posts rather than actually trying the changes in the game.

/shrug

Their loss.

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Yep, sounds like Jedi

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dlc3007 wrote:

Getting close.

I have the sneaky suspicion that most of the crying is coming from people who have been reacting to posts rather than actually trying the changes in the game.

/shrug

Their loss.

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Well in my case you'd be wrong. I've been playing continually since this publish went live (except the first day, I NEVER play on patch day).

1. I don't find that the slicing changes have revived my interest in slicing at ALL. Other than loot camping for the tools it isn't any more interesting than it was. Clickety clicket go the slice monkeys. The idea they had In Concept that we discussed for 5 months WAS interesting sounding. Wonder why they substituted THIS without saying a word to us? Don't you wonder about that at ALL?

2. I don't find loot camping enjoyable. Now components as rewards for smuggler missions would be nice but you have to be a religious zealot to think we're going to get THAT in our lifetimes. And I say so based on SOEs track-record NOT wishful thinking or empty verbage.

3. The number of people seeking me out for slicing is a TINY fraction of when I used to slice pre-CU. I used to be able to stand in front of Theed or Coronet starport with my MS title up and say absolutely nothing in the way of advertisements and have a line forming in front of me for hours. Now I have had exactly ONE person seek me out and they thought they'd get a full slice for 5k with ME supplying the components!

4. I have NO room in inventory, houses, factories or ships for anything but the myriad of slicing components. That they wouldn't make them stack is BAFFLING and rather stupid.

5. I don't find the increases to weapon stats all that great compared with the best PUs. And PUs are FAR less expensive and much easier to find.

6. I just finished sitting in front of Coronet starport watching a group of 3 Jedi farming HUNDREDS of instantly spawning Rebel Commandos for the 1 to 2 fp they got. Christ All Mighty why not just give them the fp so we don't have to deal with the lag from their pitiful farming. This whole game is becoming a farming fest.

7. And the double-exp for any excuse. It's our two year aniversary! Let's give double exp even though we just got finished giving double exp! What's next? Blue Frogs on all live servers?

8. Then there's the token respec. Why? I say we shouldn't have had a respec at all, let alone a respec for those that missed the respec and another respec as a 'token' for all those that complained. Just pass out the Blue Frogs and be done with it. Maybe just give Architects a Blue Frog schematic so we can all have them in our houses!

Sorry but this game has been dumbed-down over and over again and I suspect, if we ever see it, our actuall SMUGGLING content will bear little resemblance to what was In Concept recently AND be dumbed-down as much as the slicing was.

But you'll likely be rid of me on July 31 which is my deadline for SOE getting SMUGGLING content at least In Test. Having taken all references to it out of In Concept though isn't very encouraging, do ya think?

The nice thing about people like me being gone is that SOE will feel even more comfortable about dishing out POS to all that will eagerly suck it down...oh nice for SOE I guess but not for the players, too bad.

I am in full agreement with SpinningCloud.

Seems that everytime I post against the looted slice components I get someone whom I've usually never met before telling me to try it before I complain.

If I had NOT tried it already, I wouldn't have much to complain about would I? I don't even hate the system, I think its great that we can choose from so many different kinds of slices. What I don't like is that a FORCE CRYSTAL is more common than my slicing tools. What I don't like is that we have loot campers in our forum asking us how much in the hundred thousands we want to pay for the stuff they looted.

I do not like the loot system. I think it would be better if the drop rate was increased a little, I think it would be a lot better if I could use my Underworld skillset to make deals with criminials for the low level tools. I think it would be the best system in the world if we could get the tools through Smuggler missions.

I imagine I'd probly be less angry about the whole thing if any of my tools had been salvage-able. (Go Starsider)

I do realize there is nothing we can do about these problems right now, what we can do something about is the flame fests. I'm tired if having to put on my asbestos overcoat anytime I walk in here to post.

Irony. Posting a thread to complain about people complaining.

Sad. Posting in that same thread complaining about the people complaining about all the complaints.

Pathetic. The fact that it took me over 2 minutes of thinking to get the above wording right

I stand by John Gabriel's Greater Internet Jerkwad Theory. (Penny-Arcade just so you know what to expect before you click.)

I agree the CU in general has been disappointing in general. However, I'm still having fun, even though I occasionally post rants, its not because I hate the game, or the devs. I would wager the devs have as hard a time with whoever deciding their priorities as we do. I still have some faith. Heck, a dev actually posted in here,and kept his word! That is the first time that has happened in the history of smuggler! I will continue to have fun because of my friends, in spite of the changes. See my sig. Adapt.

Think its bad here? Go look at the self destruction on the Jedi forums!