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Thread: Hows this For Slice Prices?

Famas
Sat Aug 13, 2005 9:44 pm
#1


Honestly, im getting sick of people trying to exploit master smugglers for slice components. The other day I had someone come up to me trying to get 1mil a pop for illegal core boosters. After seeing this, I decided to check out the starsider bazaar and see what people were selling slice components for.


The lowest I could find illegal core boosters for was around 50-100k per. It got even worse with shock padding, reactive micro plating, and finely crafted toolkits that went as high as 500k-1mil capping out at 100k for the cheapest rate.


Because of the lack of components that anyone can reasonably afford without bending over even more than we already have, I have decided to charge 100k per 10% of customization of an item. (bolded so people dont have to read the entire rant)


Its costly, however very simple mathematics. Most peopleknow what I am talking about when I advertise so theres little confusion. The majority of people who want slices want them so they can cap out their armor/weapon stats on their high end weapons. If people have such money to throw around while still attempting to rap3 my bank account for component prices, they might as well have to pay a nice premium to get my services. I dont see why I should be slicing at a loss.



Anyone else charge premium rates for slices? Ironically, raising my prices for some reasonhas gotten me MORE business. I still cant figure that one out /shrug











Famas Stari **Jedi**
Adra Stari **Master Smuggler**
gassygunslinger
Sat Aug 13, 2005 10:21 pm
#2


I've got an even easier set of prices... Here's how to system works, you take the customization points, then times it by the square root of the drop rate on the second highest level component neccessary (substituting no components with 3.534) then add that to the drop rate percentage of the highest component required, and times that by pie and beer, and then tell the customer "Sorry, I don't feel like slicing, cuz I left it all at home... Bye now!"



Works 100% of the time!




P.S. I'm just fed up with all the f%cked up drop rates, and no stacking, and the loads of other crap wrong with slicing, so I just slice for a SINGLE friend of mine and nobody else... I don't want to deal with explaining the new system, I don't want to deal with carrying it around, I don't want to deal with trying to keep up with pricing that seems to be on a rollercoaster! Screw it all!


Message Edited by gassygunslinger on 08-13-2005 10:23 PM



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Waarangel
Sat Aug 13, 2005 10:29 pm
#3


I created and posted a Pricing Guide for slices before the ICBs started dropping. It was:


lvl1 = 50k
lvl2 = 100k
lvl3 = 150k (lvl3 dmg = 800k)
lvl4 = 500k


Half price if you supply your own components.


Now, since the ICBs drop like candy from the sky, I have watched on Eclipse as people still try to get crazy prices for ICBs in auction. So I made a plea on our forum, which was received with positives and negatives, but went ahead with my plan to force down the costs of slicing for everyone.


The current price system I use is:


lvl1 = FREE
lvl2 = 20k
lvl3 = 50k
lvl4 = 100k


Half price if you supply your own components. One additional FREE level if you bring a friend for slicing.



Before the ICBs dropped, I made a few hundred million* as I have an established client base and a LOT of parts. Now that I dropped prices, I can barely keep up. And am loving every minute of it.


*ED - this amount was since the slicing system change. I am the longest running Master Smuggler on Eclipse and this number does not reflect my business since gamelaunch.

Message Edited by Waarangel on 08-14-2005 01:31 AM



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Famas
Sun Aug 14, 2005 12:33 pm
#4

hmmm not a bad system at all. Might switch over to that











Famas Stari **Jedi**
Adra Stari **Master Smuggler**
Balatro1
Sun Aug 14, 2005 12:40 pm
#5

I have the case of you supply the parts i will do the slice. The charge for slicing is 30k per peice.



Kili Daran
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Jhra Daran
Master Tailor

QuantumArtist
Sun Aug 14, 2005 12:55 pm
#6






Waarangel wrote:


I created and posted a Pricing Guide for slices before the ICBs started dropping. It was:


lvl1 = 50k
lvl2 = 100k
lvl3 = 150k (lvl3 dmg = 800k)
lvl4 = 500k


Half price if you supply your own components.


Now, since the ICBs drop like candy from the sky, I have watched on Eclipse as people still try to get crazy prices for ICBs in auction. So I made a plea on our forum, which was received with positives and negatives, but went ahead with my plan to force down the costs of slicing for everyone.


The current price system I use is:


lvl1 = FREE
lvl2 = 20k
lvl3 = 50k
lvl4 = 100k


Half price if you supply your own components. One additional FREE level if you bring a friend for slicing.



Before the ICBs dropped, I made a few hundred million* as I have an established client base and a LOT of parts. Now that I dropped prices, I can barely keep up. And am loving every minute of it.


*ED - this amount was since the slicing system change. I am the longest running Master Smuggler on Eclipse and this number does not reflect my business since gamelaunch.

Message Edited by Waarangel on 08-14-2005 01:31 AM




lvl1 = 50k
lvl2 = 100k
lvl3 = 150k (lvl3 dmg = 800k)
lvl4 = 500k


Not bad, but considering how rare finely crafted toolkits are, I'd say flip it so its more like this;


Level 1= 50k (for no component slices) but 250k for anything requiring a simple toolkit


level 2= 150k for armor slices but 500k for anything requiring a finely crafted toolkit


Level 3= 100k


level 4 = 100k


With the jacked up drop rates, the lower level simple and fine toolkit components are significantly more rare then any of the advanced stuff. These prices would reflect that.





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Oclesei_Moonrider
Sun Aug 14, 2005 2:33 pm
#7

I usually run a flat 100k for my time.


So then we go:

Tier 1: 10k

Tier 2: 50k

TIer 3: 100k (damage 150k)

Tier 4: 150k


So that adds up to: 300k range for a full slice. And plenty of people pay it.



Olero - Master Lamer

Master Smuggler - Master BH - Master Pistoleer - Novice Combat Medic
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Rueger_Karde
Sun Aug 14, 2005 8:24 pm
#8

I just can't find any freaking simples or finly tuned to save my sorry butt.

I've done lvl 52 merc missions on lok with NO success. This is really bitting my balls.



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DoMakk
Sun Aug 14, 2005 10:10 pm
#9

I have made sure to /rofl at anyone who offers to sell me slicing goods. Slicing goods are given to me as TRIBUTE for my magnificence!


(/megalomania off)





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EmonOkari
Mon Aug 15, 2005 4:47 am
#10

My price macro lists 4 options:


/r *whisper*OK...here's my weapon slice price list...


/r Spd/Dmg Combos (wimpy): (4%spd, 4%dmg). Price at 100K.


/r 'Ludicrous' Speed: (12% spd). Priced at 200K.


/r 'Overly' Critical: (10% crit). Priced at 200K.


/r Top 'Damn' -age: (8%dmg, 2%spd, 3%crit). Priced at 300K.



This keeps most of the n00bs from asking about the low-end combos and the dreaded"Which one is best for [insert weapon name here]?" If someone asks if that's ALL I can slice, then I reply, "Nope...I can do 'The Works' for 500K." Its the very same slice as the top-lvl dmg,yet almost every single one says, "Oooh...that's the one I want." The average IQ level of players in this game must be a good deal lower than even real-life.





Emon Okari | Gunslinger
Captain Of Dusty Drifter

dlc3007
Mon Aug 15, 2005 5:27 am
#11






EmonOkari wrote:

/r Top 'Damn' -age: (8%dmg, 2%spd, 3%crit). Priced at 300K.





This is the reason I hate the new drops. I used to get 800k for that slice -- easy.


slicing is just stupid now. Glad you're still able to get that much for it.




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ordio
Mon Aug 15, 2005 9:55 am
#12

Wow...


This is what i charge...


I used to charge 2k/customization %... or 200K for an entire slice... if you provide the components, that's all i charge... i just dropped to 1k/customization %... But that's also because of the influx of the ICB's...


BUT, the last slice i did before that pub change was the lvl 3 dmg, lvl 1 speed, lvl 1 critical. The ICB's were in such high demand, i ended up buying one for 2.75 million... and charging 10% above that to have the item for my time for that as well. I never charged for simple toolkits as i ended up getting a lot of those and rather get rid of 'em for free...


Other than that, i charge based on what i paid for the component... sometimes i charge cost if they are doing a multiple slice with me (ie 7 armor pieces)...


Plus there are suddenly a lot more smugglers out there... at least on Valcyn anyway. ...






Valcyn: Etevei Iomag (CL 90 Jedi/Master Ace Smuggler Pilot), Ordio (Master Trader-Engineer)
Valcyn #2: Eppav Iomag (CL75 Smuggler), Yve Iomag (Master Entertainer). Living in Galatorbria, Rori.
Vendor located just outside of Restuss at (/wayp 4878 6375) - Spice, Looted Weapons, Armor, Buff Items and other Misc items. This is also the drop off location
Sunrunner: Mumybecca (CL 14 BH).
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