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Thread: Smuggler's Grind Kit: KETTEMOOR

JoachimPeiper
Fri Jul 16, 2004 4:07 pm
#1

Smuggler's Grind Kit


Contains the following useful items for the aspiring smuggler:


15 Locked containers
5,000 Known radioactive for use in Muon production
5,000 Fruit for use in Muon production
10 armour upgrade kits
10 weapons upgrade kits
2 x Factory crates of 25 Molecular Clamps
2 x Factory crates of 25 Precision Laser Knives


400,000 credits minimum bid or 750,000 immediate 24 x 7 buy out by going to Rori, Shadow Falls 6184 1795 SOUTHFORK SPICE and MED vendor. Auction ends Sunday July 18th, 22:00 CT US. KETTEMOOR




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Ssith-rin
Fri Jul 16, 2004 4:30 pm
#2

Sorry to say thats got to be one of the biggest ripoffs I have ever seen. Happy to say I have been a Master Smuggler since Christmas and I help new and upcoming smugglers for free.


But of course this is very smuggler-esque so well done if you get to sell those few goods.



Ssith-rin

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JoachimPeiper
Fri Jul 16, 2004 10:51 pm
#3

It's not a rip-off if someone finds value in it. You never learned about economics did you, wee one? Go look up market-based pricing. If someone buys it, it's valuable. Particularly the convenience factor of having that equipment available. If you want, offer something of better value to the community. Otherwise /hush and be constructive.




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OslasAne
Fri Jul 16, 2004 11:47 pm
#4






JoachimPeiper wrote:

It's not a rip-off if someone finds value in it. You never learned about economics did you, wee one? Go look up market-based pricing. If someone buys it, it's valuable. Particularly the convenience factor of having that equipment available. If you want, offer something of better value to the community. Otherwise /hush and be constructive.




Ya it is. If someone does buy it then they got had. Honestly add a few more WUKs clamps and some grinding knives and then maybe it would be worth that. But you probably sell containers for 10k also. That is more of a starter kit not a grinding kit. With that aside this should be on the trade forums not here.

JoachimPeiper
Fri Jul 16, 2004 11:59 pm
#5

Once again. Market pricing. No one gets had if they find a match between a buyer and seller and all walk away satisfied. Everyone on these boards a bunch of socialists?




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korvass
Sat Jul 17, 2004 6:34 am
#6

Half a mil for some lousy tools and resources? Good luck buddy...


Still, it's a good idea..I think I'll nick it and do me own for about 100k...





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neo_mozart
Sat Jul 17, 2004 7:48 am
#7



A little overpriced to be sure, but you can't argue the convenience


Knock down the price a smidge, and you'll find a buyer who won't feel like he got ripped off =P


Oh, and I can't quite follow the reasoning behind throwing in resources for grinding Muon Gold...


It's a level 4 spice...


Throw in the same amount for shadowpaw and it'll make a heck of a lot more sense =P






Message Edited by neo_mozart on 07-17-2004 11:15 AM

JoachimPeiper
Sat Jul 17, 2004 8:36 am
#8

OK.. the audience is is listening.. finally a productive discussion.I will reassess the prices today. Thanks for turning this to a constructive discussion. I will pull this from my vendor today and up the ante to be competitive with the other post that ups AUK and WUK and Knives, etc. Thanks guys. This helps the community. Hopefully, everyone on each server will now provide this convenient service in some capacity.




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KJFett
Sat Jul 17, 2004 9:22 am
#9






JoachimPeiper wrote:

OK.. the audience is is listening.. finally a productive discussion.I will reassess the prices today. Thanks for turning this to a constructive discussion. I will pull this from my vendor today and up the ante to be competitive with the other post that ups AUK and WUK and Knives, etc. Thanks guys. This helps the community. Hopefully, everyone on each server will now provide this convenient service in some capacity.





Ohhh you really tricked us.....yes you did. See, we thought you posted a lame "smuggler" kit on here to get a buyer and we all somehow missed the sentence "Hey, Guys I'm thinking of doing a smuggler kit for aspiring smugglers. This is what I put together so far..any suggestions?" I'm sure had we all realized that was in there we would have been more sympathetic from the beginning and been far more constructive in our posts. You see, all we saw was a bunch of junk that can be baught off the bazaar in Theed for less than a 100K and you trying to sell it for 400-750K. How silly of us.


I have seen grind kits on server forums that supply every single thing needed to grind all the way to 0404 smuggler for 750K and those included all the WUKS, crates of wpns, knives, clamps..everything. Those people still made a handsome profit. And didn't make their customer feel as though they had been given the shaft afterwards.




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Sawro
Sat Jul 17, 2004 10:03 am
#10



KJFett wrote:


JoachimPeiper wrote:
OK.. the audience is is listening.. finally a productive discussion. I will reassess the prices today. Thanks for turning this to a constructive discussion. I will pull this from my vendor today and up the ante to be competitive with the other post that ups AUK and WUK and Knives, etc. Thanks guys. This helps the community. Hopefully, everyone on each server will now provide this convenient service in some capacity.


Ohhh you really tricked us.....yes you did. See, we thought you posted a lame "smuggler" kit on here to get a buyer and we all somehow missed the sentence "Hey, Guys I'm thinking of doing a smuggler kit for aspiring smugglers. This is what I put together so far..any suggestions?" I'm sure had we all realized that was in there we would have been more sympathetic from the beginning and been far more constructive in our posts. You see, all we saw was a bunch of junk that can be baught off the bazaar in Theed for less than a 100K and you trying to sell it for 400-750K. How silly of us.

I have seen grind kits on server forums that supply every single thing needed to grind all the way to 0404 smuggler for 750K and those included all the WUKS, crates of wpns, knives, clamps..everything. Those people still made a handsome profit. And didn't make their customer feel as though they had been given the shaft afterwards.






And Kettemoor has a pretty decent economy, so these item are way overpriced. I have seen containers on the bazzar for 3k recently.



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Zhagadska
Sat Jul 17, 2004 11:15 am
#11

grind kit?!?!?





why don't we just give no0bs the master box for free? i'm all for helping out, but geez. make the journey to master a fun experience, enjoy the ride. take some real pride when you accomplish master after putting real effort into it.




and yeah, 400k for all that is high. you don't need auk's or wuk's. more containers and just organics for shadowpaw would do the trick.



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JoachimPeiper
Sat Jul 17, 2004 12:06 pm
#12

BTW: I thought about the trade boards.. it's posted there as well. However,I wanted to put this out as an offering to assist aspiring smugglers. I can knock these containers out for 150,000 and the resources and other items can be sold individually and still get around 200,000 - 250,000. The value in this STARTER KIT is that it provides a jump start through slicing. I burned through 3 times this amount in containers before I ever got to terminal and then weapon slicing when I did not understand how slicing worked.


So, my logic behind placing it on the Smuggler Forum was to offer a convenience to the aspiring professional. The two commentators so far find no value in what I've presented. Perhaps they care enough to go through the effort to ofer a better package to their starting smuggler community.


I challenge you both to set aside your criticism and beat what I've offered. Let's see if you're all talk and sniper / flamers -- or can you offer up something better to help our fellow starting smugglers.




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OslasAne
Sat Jul 17, 2004 12:49 pm
#13






JoachimPeiper wrote:

Smuggler's Grind Kit


Contains the following useful items for the aspiring smuggler:


15 Locked containers
5,000 Known radioactive for use in Muon production
5,000 Fruit for use in Muon production
10 armour upgrade kits
10 weapons upgrade kits
2 x Factory crates of 25 Molecular Clamps
2 x Factory crates of 25 Precision Laser Knives


400,000 credits minimum bid or 750,000 immediate 24 x 7 buy out by going to Rori, Shadow Falls 6184 1795 SOUTHFORK SPICE and MED vendor. Auction ends Sunday July 18th, 22:00 CT US. KETTEMOOR





Ok I sniper number 2 will show something I consider better:


25 locked containers (6k x 25= 150,000)


5000 oraganic (3cpu) grind qual= 15000 ( you can do almost if not all spice tree with this and doingshadowpawon a macro)


5000 metal/copper (3cpu) grind qual =15000 ( same as above)


25 wuk x4 (10k x4) 40k


25 clamps x4 (10kx4)40k


25 pres knives x 4(3k x4) 12k


Total 272k.


Lets say we kick it up to profit and I'd still be way under your minimum. No need for the Auks. But you can add them. Would still be under you. Even if it was x4. These are pretty standard prices on my server. LC go from 6k to 10k depending if they are on the bazaar or not. So lets say 25 LC for 10k= 250,000. I'd be at 372k. But as a smuggler 10k LC isn't really a deal is it considering I can walk myself over to the bazaar do a galaxy search and pick them up for 6k. Even if I had to shuttle to every planet in the end it would cheaper then buying from you. There flame on. Obviously you aren't really out to help anyone at 10k per container.



Reason for the edit. I originally had scramjet as the grinding spice but I believe it was shadowpaw that I used.






Message Edited by OslasAne on 07-17-2004 10:45 AM

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