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Thread: why the feck is DF is broken?

Nura
Wed Jun 09, 2004 4:55 am
#1

well i dont think its broken. it just work like it should.

nothing is wrong with panic shot. its a PANIC shot! actualy u shooting outa panic throught the area and confusing the mob. unless u dont attack him, he trying to figure out what he was actualy doing
"uhm ... what am i doing here? /scratch why do i have a gun in the hand?"
*u start attacking
"uh right, i was fighting this foolish smuggler over there"

same for feign death. it worx fine for me. as soon as i see im going to die soon, ill ran outa the area and hit the FD button.
after FD hits ill just wait and wait till the mobs start wandering arround aggain or till my health is high enuff to shoot him.
what do u expect from the mobs?

am i the only one who doesnt realy cares about the so called "nerfs"???



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Abai
Wed Jun 09, 2004 5:59 am
#2

The problem with feign death is that you can run out of the area and like 250 meters away, when you then get up again the mobs will aggro on you. Basically FD is not broken, but mobs reaggroing on you even though you are pretty far away from them, now that is pretty messed up.


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Nura
Wed Jun 09, 2004 6:07 am
#3

happend to me too but not allways.


i usualy wait till they walked away far enuff. doesnt work allways, but mostly.





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EcadMistflier
Wed Jun 09, 2004 7:19 am
#4








Abai wrote:

The problem with feign death is that you can run out of the area and like 250 meters away, when you then get up again the mobs will aggro on you. Basically FD is not broken, but mobs reaggroing on you even though you are pretty far away from them, now that is pretty messed up.


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This is the heart of the issue. Also, it has been recently confirmed that FD is not a PvP skill. This being the case the implication is that it was and is meant to be used in PvE. The problem arises from the fact that If everytime you use FD in PvE and the mob re aggros on you when you get back up then it is not as effective a move as it could or should be.


FD should "break" the mobs ability to reaggro on you. THAT is the secondary benefit of the FD move. First is to save your life. Second, to allow the smuggler to either escape or rejoin combat when healed up.




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WillburWright
Wed Jun 09, 2004 7:35 am
#5

Yeah, it is broken.



Not for PvP is bull.



FrankLee
Wed Jun 09, 2004 7:40 am
#6



Nura wrote:
well i dont think its broken. it just work like it should.

nothing is wrong with panic shot. its a PANIC shot! actualy u shooting outa panic throught the area and confusing the mob. unless u dont attack him, he trying to figure out what he was actualy doing
"uhm ... what am i doing here? /scratch why do i have a gun in the hand?"
*u start attacking
"uh right, i was fighting this foolish smuggler over there"

same for feign death. it worx fine for me. as soon as i see im going to die soon, ill ran outa the area and hit the FD button.
after FD hits ill just wait and wait till the mobs start wandering arround aggain or till my health is high enuff to shoot him.
what do u expect from the mobs?

am i the only one who doesnt realy cares about the so called "nerfs"???




Um, yeah. Except you're supposed to panic the target, not yourself.
And unless you macro /panicshot;/peace your next auto attack will reinstate combat, meaning that you do essentially nothing. A 10 second delay to occur outside of combat has very limited potential. Not an effective peace tactic either, since he'll re-aggro you when the 10 seconds is up. You could maybe get on a bike, or sign your last will and testament, but otherwise useless. Before, it gave you 10 seconds of unreturned attack.
FD is useful if you're buffed, you can lay there and get better. Otherwise, it merely prolongs the inevitable.



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Intelerebel
Wed Jun 09, 2004 7:41 am
#7

The only thing that irks me about any of the DF specials is Last Ditch.....



How the hell does a master smuggler miss with last ditch, after you knockdown an opponent at 15 Meters?





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BloodMonk
Wed Jun 09, 2004 8:17 am
#8

/panicshot;

/peace


does not work for me, the peace clears my combat que even before the panic**edit** get's off...it's almost impossible not te break the delay.


atm it is only good on a group, when it sticks on all, so you can single out one opponent for 10 seconds....VERY limited use I'd say



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