Smuggler Archive

First time poster, LONG time lurker...so please be gentle .

First and foremost, I know the issue that needs to be addressed is the fact that WE CAN NOT SMUGGLE. Evidently, if you do not have a glow stick, you don't get much love. Unless, of course, you help enrich the life of Jedi. My thought is this...Why not let a Smuggler lower a Jedi's visability?
Here's the plan.
1) Jedi is hunted by BH
2) Jedi hires Smuggler (us) to get him off whichever planet he's on to another planet.
3) We overcharge said Jedi!!!

Now let's break this down. Issue #1 states that a Jedi is hunted by a BH. I'm sure the question many of you have is "Why would a Jedi want to evade a BH?" The reasons are endless. With the addition of Padawan to the BH terminals, these guys are easy pickin' for an experienced BH. Also, some Jedi, no matter how powerfull the class is, just stink at PvP. They may want no part of it. The reasons go on and on. If, however, SOE decides to really make this necessary, they could increase the severity of the penalty of being killed by a BH (perma-death, loss of title [knight to padawan, padawan to FS], or loss of larger numbers of XP).

Issue two states said Jedi would hire us to help him escape BH. "Why the HE-- would we want to help these game killers?" Why, because we will finally get to smuggle, that's why! The process would go as follows.
1) We accept the mission from Jedi
2) We must sneak into our ship (I.E. enter starport, enter ship terminal, etc) without an imperial/BH catching us. This could get real strategic, especially if the Empire owns the city and has a guard at the door. Maybe you would go to a shuttleport to a starport, then down to the terminal, then to space.
3) We must enter Hyperspace without the BH or empire catching us. If we were unable to get the Glow stick to our ship without added "attention", we would be met in space by some heavy-duty imperial resistance. Maybe the BH is crafty, knowing he can't take us both on land, but his ship against ours is a better fight. This step also adds a little bit of fun to space combat...FINALLY
4) Once we reach our destination planet, we must land safely for the Jedi to lower vis. Upon doing so, the said Jedi would be hidden from all droids for a specified amount of time and his/her vis would decrease a given amount of points.
There are also options in this scenario. Maybe we decide we would rather see a dead Jedi. We tip off the BH of our route (for a price. We are Smugglers after all), he intercepts, and the Jedi is no more. Be prepared to lose business, though. Jedi whine. Also, if we do have an Imperial entanglement, WE would become the next BH mark! You see how this works, we all win!

Issue three is not an issue. We have to overcharge them!

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JakeEyes wrote:

Evidently, if you do not have a glow stick, you don't get much love.

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JakeEyes wrote:
First time poster, LONG time lurker...so please be gentle .

First and foremost, I know the issue that needs to be addressed is the fact that WE CAN NOT SMUGGLE. Evidently, if you do not have a glow stick, you don't get much love. Unless, of course, you help enrich the life of Jedi. My thought is this...Why not let a Smuggler lower a Jedi's visability?
Here's the plan.
1) Jedi is hunted by BH
2) Jedi hires Smuggler (us) to get him off whichever planet he's on to another planet.
3) We overcharge said Jedi!!!

Now let's break this down. Issue #1 states that a Jedi is hunted by a BH. I'm sure the question many of you have is "Why would a Jedi want to evade a BH?" The reasons are endless. With the addition of Padawan to the BH terminals, these guys are easy pickin' for an experienced BH. Also, some Jedi, no matter how powerfull the class is, just stink at PvP. They may want no part of it. The reasons go on and on. If, however, SOE decides to really make this necessary, they could increase the severity of the penalty of being killed by a BH (perma-death, loss of title [knight to padawan, padawan to FS], or loss of larger numbers of XP).

Issue two states said Jedi would hire us to help him escape BH. "Why the HE-- would we want to help these game killers?" Why, because we will finally get to smuggle, that's why! The process would go as follows.
1) We accept the mission from Jedi
2) We must sneak into our ship (I.E. enter starport, enter ship terminal, etc) without an imperial/BH catching us. This could get real strategic, especially if the Empire owns the city and has a guard at the door. Maybe you would go to a shuttleport to a starport, then down to the terminal, then to space.
3) We must enter Hyperspace without the BH or empire catching us. If we were unable to get the Glow stick to our ship without added "attention", we would be met in space by some heavy-duty imperial resistance. Maybe the BH is crafty, knowing he can't take us both on land, but his ship against ours is a better fight. This step also adds a little bit of fun to space combat...FINALLY
4) Once we reach our destination planet, we must land safely for the Jedi to lower vis. Upon doing so, the said Jedi would be hidden from all droids for a specified amount of time and his/her vis would decrease a given amount of points.
There are also options in this scenario. Maybe we decide we would rather see a dead Jedi. We tip off the BH of our route (for a price. We are Smugglers after all), he intercepts, and the Jedi is no more. Be prepared to lose business, though. Jedi whine. Also, if we do have an Imperial entanglement, WE would become the next BH mark! You see how this works, we all win!

Issue three is not an issue. We have to overcharge them!

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That's a great idea Jake. If you could somehow screw over the BH (sorry all you BHs out there) by giving the Jedi an unknown planet status, charge them an arm and a leg, that would be great.

Problem is, the Jedi can now just go hunt on Kash, their own personal hunting grounds.

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JakeEyes wrote:
First time poster, LONG time lurker...so please be gentle .

First and foremost, I know the issue that needs to be addressed is the fact that WE CAN NOT SMUGGLE. Evidently, if you do not have a glow stick, you don't get much love. Unless, of course, you help enrich the life of Jedi. My thought is this...Why not let a Smuggler lower a Jedi's visability?
Here's the plan.
1) Jedi is hunted by BH
2) Jedi hires Smuggler (us) to get him off whichever planet he's on to another planet.
3) We overcharge said Jedi!!!

Now let's break this down. Issue #1 states that a Jedi is hunted by a BH. I'm sure the question many of you have is "Why would a Jedi want to evade a BH?" The reasons are endless. With the addition of Padawan to the BH terminals, these guys are easy pickin' for an experienced BH. Also, some Jedi, no matter how powerfull the class is, just stink at PvP. They may want no part of it. The reasons go on and on. If, however, SOE decides to really make this necessary, they could increase the severity of the penalty of being killed by a BH (perma-death, loss of title [knight to padawan, padawan to FS], or loss of larger numbers of XP).

Issue two states said Jedi would hire us to help him escape BH. "Why the HE-- would we want to help these game killers?" Why, because we will finally get to smuggle, that's why! The process would go as follows.
1) We accept the mission from Jedi
2) We must sneak into our ship (I.E. enter starport, enter ship terminal, etc) without an imperial/BH catching us. This could get real strategic, especially if the Empire owns the city and has a guard at the door. Maybe you would go to a shuttleport to a starport, then down to the terminal, then to space.
3) We must enter Hyperspace without the BH or empire catching us. If we were unable to get the Glow stick to our ship without added "attention", we would be met in space by some heavy-duty imperial resistance. Maybe the BH is crafty, knowing he can't take us both on land, but his ship against ours is a better fight. This step also adds a little bit of fun to space combat...FINALLY
4) Once we reach our destination planet, we must land safely for the Jedi to lower vis. Upon doing so, the said Jedi would be hidden from all droids for a specified amount of time and his/her vis would decrease a given amount of points.
There are also options in this scenario. Maybe we decide we would rather see a dead Jedi. We tip off the BH of our route (for a price. We are Smugglers after all), he intercepts, and the Jedi is no more. Be prepared to lose business, though. Jedi whine. Also, if we do have an Imperial entanglement, WE would become the next BH mark! You see how this works, we all win!

Issue three is not an issue. We have to overcharge them!

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Timing is the killer here. The Jedi doesn't know when his mission has been taken, and how will the BH know where the smuggler is? If you can thicken the plot a little, you may be on to something.

That's a great idea Jake. If you could somehow screw over the BH (sorry all you BHs out there) by giving the Jedi an unknown planet status, charge them an arm and a leg, that would be great.

Problem is, the Jedi can now just go hunt on Kash, their own personal hunting grounds.

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Thanks bro! That would be perfect (unknown planet status). It could be a temp state effect or something. As far as the Jedi hunting grounds, A.K.A Kash, why not lower xp gained there? They could make it more of like a quest planet, yielding LOW xp but nice loot.

Unfortunately, if this was ever implemented, some unscrupulous Jedi fellows would just dual log their alt smuggler and abuse the system to personallyevade bounties.

It's a nice post and theory, but it's subject to(and unfortunate casualty of) thepowergamer test.

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Makris wrote:

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JakeEyes wrote:
First time poster, LONG time lurker...so please be gentle .

First and foremost, I know the issue that needs to be addressed is the fact that WE CAN NOT SMUGGLE. Evidently, if you do not have a glow stick, you don't get much love. Unless, of course, you help enrich the life of Jedi. My thought is this...Why not let a Smuggler lower a Jedi's visability?
Here's the plan.
1) Jedi is hunted by BH
2) Jedi hires Smuggler (us) to get him off whichever planet he's on to another planet.
3) We overcharge said Jedi!!!

Now let's break this down. Issue #1 states that a Jedi is hunted by a BH. I'm sure the question many of you have is "Why would a Jedi want to evade a BH?" The reasons are endless. With the addition of Padawan to the BH terminals, these guys are easy pickin' for an experienced BH. Also, some Jedi, no matter how powerfull the class is, just stink at PvP. They may want no part of it. The reasons go on and on. If, however, SOE decides to really make this necessary, they could increase the severity of the penalty of being killed by a BH (perma-death, loss of title [knight to padawan, padawan to FS], or loss of larger numbers of XP).

Issue two states said Jedi would hire us to help him escape BH. "Why the HE-- would we want to help these game killers?" Why, because we will finally get to smuggle, that's why! The process would go as follows.
1) We accept the mission from Jedi
2) We must sneak into our ship (I.E. enter starport, enter ship terminal, etc) without an imperial/BH catching us. This could get real strategic, especially if the Empire owns the city and has a guard at the door. Maybe you would go to a shuttleport to a starport, then down to the terminal, then to space.
3) We must enter Hyperspace without the BH or empire catching us. If we were unable to get the Glow stick to our ship without added "attention", we would be met in space by some heavy-duty imperial resistance. Maybe the BH is crafty, knowing he can't take us both on land, but his ship against ours is a better fight. This step also adds a little bit of fun to space combat...FINALLY
4) Once we reach our destination planet, we must land safely for the Jedi to lower vis. Upon doing so, the said Jedi would be hidden from all droids for a specified amount of time and his/her vis would decrease a given amount of points.
There are also options in this scenario. Maybe we decide we would rather see a dead Jedi. We tip off the BH of our route (for a price. We are Smugglers after all), he intercepts, and the Jedi is no more. Be prepared to lose business, though. Jedi whine. Also, if we do have an Imperial entanglement, WE would become the next BH mark! You see how this works, we all win!

Issue three is not an issue. We have to overcharge them!

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Timing is the killer here. The Jedi doesn't know when his mission has been taken, and how will the BH know where the smuggler is? If you can thicken the plot a little, you may be on to something.

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We wouldn't accept the mission from a terminal, we would have to make ourselves accessable to Jedi. The Jedi would approach US about lowering vis. A BH wouldn't be able to follow a Smuggler around waiting for his mark 'cause there are WAY to many Jedi and WAY to many Smugglers to nail your mark like that. The BH's would have to take turns staking Smugglers for possible Jedi marks. Furthermore, We could start a thread on the Jedi server of all master smugglers willing to take these missions (Name/Server/Home/etc.). It would clear up the timing issue AND add a feeling of underworld.
How cool would it be if THIS happens? Your hanging out in an out-of-the-way cantina on Tatooine when you get a /tell. "Can you help me, There's a Bounty Hunter looking to kill me?" You designate a secret rendevouz (did I spell that right ) and take your "cargo" safely to it's destination.

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Taln2 wrote:

Unfortunately, if this was ever implemented, some unscrupulous Jedi fellows would just dual log their alt smuggler and abuse the system to personally evade bounties.

It's a nice post and theory, but it's subject to (and unfortunate casualty of) the powergamer test.

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They can DUAL LOG??? How screwed is that?

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JakeEyes wrote:
First time poster, LONG time lurker...so please be gentle .

First and foremost, I know the issue that needs to be addressed is the fact that WE CAN NOT SMUGGLE. Evidently, if you do not have a glow stick, you don't get much love. Unless, of course, you help enrich the life of Jedi. My thought is this...Why not let a Smuggler lower a Jedi's visability?
Here's the plan.
1) Jedi is hunted by BH
2) Jedi hires Smuggler (us) to get him off whichever planet he's on to another planet.
3) We overcharge said Jedi!!!

Now let's break this down. Issue #1 states that a Jedi is hunted by a BH. I'm sure the question many of you have is "Why would a Jedi want to evade a BH?" The reasons are endless. With the addition of Padawan to the BH terminals, these guys are easy pickin' for an experienced BH. Also, some Jedi, no matter how powerfull the class is, just stink at PvP. They may want no part of it. The reasons go on and on. If, however, SOE decides to really make this necessary, they could increase the severity of the penalty of being killed by a BH (perma-death, loss of title [knight to padawan, padawan to FS], or loss of larger numbers of XP).

Issue two states said Jedi would hire us to help him escape BH. "Why the HE-- would we want to help these game killers?" Why, because we will finally get to smuggle, that's why! The process would go as follows.
1) We accept the mission from Jedi - This would mean that the Jedi would have to be given some sort of "warning" when a player takes a bounty on them. Not only do the BH's no longer know who they are hunting, you want to give the Jedi an advantage like this? "Mega Nasty the Bounty Hunter has taken a mission on you!" Why pay a Smuggler to "lower" my visibility when I can make a fast run to Kashyyyk, get on the trail and just log out?
2) We must sneak into our ship (I.E. enter starport, enter ship terminal, etc) without an imperial/BH catching us. This could get real strategic, especially if the Empire owns the city and has a guard at the door. Maybe you would go to a shuttleport to a starport, then down to the terminal, then to space.
3) We must enter Hyperspace without the BH or empire catching us. If we were unable to get the Glow stick to our ship without added "attention", we would be met in space by some heavy-duty imperial resistance. Maybe the BH is crafty, knowing he can't take us both on land, but his ship against ours is a better fight. This step also adds a little bit of fun to space combat...FINALLY - Uhm, how do you figure? The only multi-player ships are the Y-Wing, the Krayt, the Aggressor, and the POB ships. Any one of those shipsare little more than target practice to the standard PvP ships, especially the Actis (Jedi) Starfighter and the Crimson Guard TIE Interceptor. Not to mention it wouldn't take long for a list of "spawn points" for space stations to get posted. Not sure how you define "fun", but it isn't getting load-killed in space.
4) Once we reach our destination planet, we must land safely for the Jedi to lower vis. Upon doing so, the said Jedi would be hidden from all droids for a specified amount of time and his/her vis would decrease a given amount of points. - Too easily abused.
There are also options in this scenario. Maybe we decide we would rather see a dead Jedi. We tip off the BH of our route (for a price. We are Smugglers after all), he intercepts, and the Jedi is no more. Be prepared to lose business, though. Jedi whine. Also, if we do have an Imperial entanglement, WE would become the next BH mark! You see how this works, we all win!

Issue three is not an issue. We have to overcharge them!

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At that point Smugglers would be able to smuggle Jedi only, and would have few (if any) customers.

But at least it's an idea on the right track.

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JakeEyes wrote:
First time poster, LONG time lurker...so please be gentle .

First and foremost, I know the issue that needs to be addressed is the fact that WE CAN NOT SMUGGLE. Evidently, if you do not have a glow stick, you don't get much love. Unless, of course, you help enrich the life of Jedi. My thought is this...Why not let a Smuggler lower a Jedi's visability?
Here's the plan.
1) Jedi is hunted by BH
2) Jedi hires Smuggler (us) to get him off whichever planet he's on to another planet.
3) We overcharge said Jedi!!!

Now let's break this down. Issue #1 states that a Jedi is hunted by a BH. I'm sure the question many of you have is "Why would a Jedi want to evade a BH?" The reasons are endless. With the addition of Padawan to the BH terminals, these guys are easy pickin' for an experienced BH. Also, some Jedi, no matter how powerfull the class is, just stink at PvP. They may want no part of it. The reasons go on and on. If, however, SOE decides to really make this necessary, they could increase the severity of the penalty of being killed by a BH (perma-death, loss of title [knight to padawan, padawan to FS], or loss of larger numbers of XP).

Issue two states said Jedi would hire us to help him escape BH. "Why the HE-- would we want to help these game killers?" Why, because we will finally get to smuggle, that's why! The process would go as follows.
1) We accept the mission from Jedi
2) We must sneak into our ship (I.E. enter starport, enter ship terminal, etc) without an imperial/BH catching us. This could get real strategic, especially if the Empire owns the city and has a guard at the door. Maybe you would go to a shuttleport to a starport, then down to the terminal, then to space.
3) We must enter Hyperspace without the BH or empire catching us. If we were unable to get the Glow stick to our ship without added "attention", we would be met in space by some heavy-duty imperial resistance. Maybe the BH is crafty, knowing he can't take us both on land, but his ship against ours is a better fight. This step also adds a little bit of fun to space combat...FINALLY
4) Once we reach our destination planet, we must land safely for the Jedi to lower vis. Upon doing so, the said Jedi would be hidden from all droids for a specified amount of time and his/her vis would decrease a given amount of points.
There are also options in this scenario. Maybe we decide we would rather see a dead Jedi. We tip off the BH of our route (for a price. We are Smugglers after all), he intercepts, and the Jedi is no more. Be prepared to lose business, though. Jedi whine. Also, if we do have an Imperial entanglement, WE would become the next BH mark! You see how this works, we all win!

Issue three is not an issue. We have to overcharge them!

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I'd love this, just to see the hate tells when I refuse to do anything that in any way helps a j3di.

I was thinking the same thing...

Charge an arm and a leg and say "this doesn't mean I like you".

LOL