Smuggler Archive
Thread: The Good, The Bad and The Ugly
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HOTDOG
Thu Jun 03, 2004 6:03 am
#1
The Good:
I don't think I am going too far out on a limb here when I say- THERE WILL BE PLAYER SMUGGLING IN JTL.
I think Caylin has known this for a little while now and has not been able to tell us-
BUT wanted to tailor our "19 Questions" response so as TH would tell us something positive (finally) coming up for smugglers.
Instead, TH was going to respond with the usual non-commital response (and with the way things have had to change- who can blame him?) So Caylin changed the question so as to best help the Smuggler Community.
If I am right, I thank you Caylin- nice effort.
I'm also going to hazzard another guess by saying that once it was figured out that smuggling would best be handled with JTL (long ago mind you) they figured out one BIG problem- a smuggler would have to own JTL in order to smuggle. So they floated the idea of changing "Smuggler" to "Scoundrel" with the idea that they could re-release "Smuggler" with JTL.
We (of course) were like, "HELL NO!" so now the problem is figuring out a way for smugglers to feel like smugglers even if they don't have JTL-
There are ways to do it- we have proven that. But in order to do it right there needs to be CONCENTRATION on it- and with all these other balls in the air, it is going to come out wrong. Which would be negative on MANY levels AND could/would effect everything else they are trying to put in the game.
But that's just me thinking- I don't know that ANY of it is true.
The Hutt Casino and Asteroid sound cool and I have to say it is good that they are shooting straight with us even if the answers SUCK!
This will give me time to get my Main(s) in a good position for the Jedi changes and JTL.
Plus I'm going to be setting up some SERIOUS shop on TC over the summer so's I can be ready to test the changes coming out. That's all good.
The Bad:
Well, prob'bly gonna be Christmas 'till smugglers see any "love". Siiiiiigghhhhh. And that's if everything goes down the way it's supposed to (which we KNOW it won't). That loving BETTER be worth it.
The Ugly:
Gonna be a lot of attitudes 'round here for the next couple of months. Can't blame 'em either. I can also feel many a- smuggler dropping prof. and dropping the game- like a tremor in the force.
What I REALLY would like to know is IF they even LOOKED at our DOC and WHAT ideas they are COMPLETELY AGAINST and what are they INTERESTED in?
I want our revamp to be what we want- and DISCUSSION will lead to that.
I know resources are booked and busy- but if we could get an answer to that question we would have an idea that:
a) we are not just up to busy work here
b) we are being at least heard
c) we are on/off the right path
d) to hang in there because they really ARE working to make the prof what we want it to be.
They SAID they wanted to work with us on the doc- and provided us the tools. Now work with us. Give us 1 set day every the month where we bat ideas back and forth as we progress to that DREAM SMUGGLER REVAMP.
Is that asking too much?
I don't think I am going too far out on a limb here when I say- THERE WILL BE PLAYER SMUGGLING IN JTL.
I think Caylin has known this for a little while now and has not been able to tell us-
BUT wanted to tailor our "19 Questions" response so as TH would tell us something positive (finally) coming up for smugglers.
Instead, TH was going to respond with the usual non-commital response (and with the way things have had to change- who can blame him?) So Caylin changed the question so as to best help the Smuggler Community.
If I am right, I thank you Caylin- nice effort.
I'm also going to hazzard another guess by saying that once it was figured out that smuggling would best be handled with JTL (long ago mind you) they figured out one BIG problem- a smuggler would have to own JTL in order to smuggle. So they floated the idea of changing "Smuggler" to "Scoundrel" with the idea that they could re-release "Smuggler" with JTL.
We (of course) were like, "HELL NO!" so now the problem is figuring out a way for smugglers to feel like smugglers even if they don't have JTL-
There are ways to do it- we have proven that. But in order to do it right there needs to be CONCENTRATION on it- and with all these other balls in the air, it is going to come out wrong. Which would be negative on MANY levels AND could/would effect everything else they are trying to put in the game.
But that's just me thinking- I don't know that ANY of it is true.
The Hutt Casino and Asteroid sound cool and I have to say it is good that they are shooting straight with us even if the answers SUCK!
This will give me time to get my Main(s) in a good position for the Jedi changes and JTL.
Plus I'm going to be setting up some SERIOUS shop on TC over the summer so's I can be ready to test the changes coming out. That's all good.
The Bad:
Well, prob'bly gonna be Christmas 'till smugglers see any "love". Siiiiiigghhhhh. And that's if everything goes down the way it's supposed to (which we KNOW it won't). That loving BETTER be worth it.
The Ugly:
Gonna be a lot of attitudes 'round here for the next couple of months. Can't blame 'em either. I can also feel many a- smuggler dropping prof. and dropping the game- like a tremor in the force.
What I REALLY would like to know is IF they even LOOKED at our DOC and WHAT ideas they are COMPLETELY AGAINST and what are they INTERESTED in?
I want our revamp to be what we want- and DISCUSSION will lead to that.
I know resources are booked and busy- but if we could get an answer to that question we would have an idea that:
a) we are not just up to busy work here
b) we are being at least heard
c) we are on/off the right path
d) to hang in there because they really ARE working to make the prof what we want it to be.
They SAID they wanted to work with us on the doc- and provided us the tools. Now work with us. Give us 1 set day every the month where we bat ideas back and forth as we progress to that DREAM SMUGGLER REVAMP.
Is that asking too much?
Message Edited by HOTDOG on 06-03-2004 06:52 AM
Smuggler_Caylin
Fri Jun 04, 2004 12:28 am
#3
HOTDOG wrote:
The Good:
I don't think I am going too far out on a limb here when I say- THERE WILL BE PLAYER SMUGGLING IN JTL.
I think Caylin has known this for a little while now and has not been able to tell us-
BUT wanted to tailor our "19 Questions" response so as TH would tell us something positive (finally) coming up for smugglers.
Instead, TH was going to respond with the usual non-commital response (and with the way things have had to change- who can blame him?) So Caylin changed the question so as to best help the Smuggler Community.
If I am right, I thank you Caylin- nice effort.
I knew about it yesterday, but I saw the need much earlier. I've warned, prodded and pleaded, now I'm just mad.
When I saw the answer, that you all have just seen, I acted as quickly as I could to get the spice question answered, so something productive would come of this.
Talked about spice... and he still went with this answer it seems, even after I gave him the answer to what was going on with spice....
I'm just going to walk outside now...
*/emote stands up, walks to the door and while doing so you hear hmm start making the sound 'Fffffffffffffff' under his breath*
One of the Four Horsemen of the Smuggler Apocalypse! 
DRWolfe
Fri Jun 04, 2004 12:37 am
#4
So, if you discussed the spice question, and gave him the answer to the spice question, and he said he would post the spice question, maybe since he posted the non-answer that we all expected, maybe you could push a little and get permission to give us the answer to the spice question.
All the hush-hush surrounding this issue makes no sense. What's happening is probably not going to change, so a "negative" answer is not going to effect the community any more than everything else has, and a "positive" answer (whatever that may be) would maybe help things a little. If it's an effect based upon some future thing (like the new weapons made for the combat rebalance) then telling us that would at least be something, we don't even have to know what the future thing is (though we'd like to).
In fact, I just don't understand all of the Devs' hush-hush attitude about everything. No harm in telling the players what they can expect in the future, for crying out loud.
All the hush-hush surrounding this issue makes no sense. What's happening is probably not going to change, so a "negative" answer is not going to effect the community any more than everything else has, and a "positive" answer (whatever that may be) would maybe help things a little. If it's an effect based upon some future thing (like the new weapons made for the combat rebalance) then telling us that would at least be something, we don't even have to know what the future thing is (though we'd like to).
In fact, I just don't understand all of the Devs' hush-hush attitude about everything. No harm in telling the players what they can expect in the future, for crying out loud.
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