Smuggler Archive
Thread: Anyone find this ironic?
In case you no one was paying attention, the new load-screen message from the recent patch describes all the changes to the Pilot professions, such as the additional droid commands and the repair change for Deep Space. I read that final statement, and damn near spit out my drink laughing though. How is it that the poor guy who writes the text copy understands this, but the professional community managers dont?
Orcajum wrote:
"... information is better than no information...."
--Gil Burtin: Founder/President Freelance Pilots Guild--
How is it that the poor guy who writes the text copy understands this, but the professional community managers dont?
While information can be used to instill hope, encourage preparedness, and foster discussion, it can also be used to disappoint, discourage, insult, exploit, gripe, grief, and whine.
While some portions of the SWG gaming community may be able to handle what information is given them,and maturely handle items that are incomplete, undecided, and up for discussion, others will take this as an opportunity to lash out because of perceived flaws, unrelated injustices, and because their parents didn't give them enough attention in their formative years.
So, while I like Gil's statement, it is aimed at a different community and situation than the implications of the above post.
Message Edited by Rhu on 12-10-2004 06:55 AM
Rhu wrote:
While information can be used to instill hope, encourage preparedness, and foster discussion, it can also be used to disappoint, discourage, insult, exploit, gripe, grief, and whine.
While some portions of the SWG gaming community may be able to handle what information is given them,and maturely handle items that are incomplete, undecided, and up for discussion, others will take this as an opportunity to lash out because of perceived flaws, unrelated injustices, and because their parents didn't give them enough attention in their formative years.
So, while I like Gil's statement, it is aimed at a different community and situation than the implications of the above post.
Message Edited by Rhu on 12-10-2004 06:55 AM
Just WHAT in the Hell are you trying to say? Ohhhh...I get it. Rhu here is trying to shoot over the head of Orcajum by attempting to use some perceived fancy wording. All this does is make him look like some sort of trolling pompus ass defending the Devs in what isa decidedly ill-treated profession. And you've been around a wee bit (I remember names) so you should have some respect and tact for any of your fellow Smugglers, if you can even be called that.
Rhu, get hop along to work, bud. What you're doing trolling the Smuggler forum to try and shoot over our heads, I don't know, but it's just uncalled for.
If this is your take on how to talk to and about another Smuggler, then you've decided picked the wrong profession and/or forum to lurk in. I do not appreciate you being a part of this profession, which is a very tightly knit group, and making cracks at another Smuggler's childhood or parents. That's simply uncalled for and you're wrong.
If you bother to read some stickies or ElectronicNomad's Smugglers in SWG History thread, and had an ounce of compassion for your fellow Smugglers and their situation, you would let this stuff go instead of making snide, uncalled for remarks.
Everyone is entitled to their voice and opinion, but if this is any indication of how you plan on voicing your opinions in this forum, you, Johnny, have backed the wrong horse.
NickHeel wrote:
Rhu wrote:
While information can be used to instill hope, encourage preparedness, and foster discussion, it can also be used to disappoint, discourage, insult, exploit, gripe, grief, and whine.
While some portions of the SWG gaming community may be able to handle what information is given them,and maturely handle items that are incomplete, undecided, and up for discussion, others will take this as an opportunity to lash out because of perceived flaws, unrelated injustices, and because their parents didn't give them enough attention in their formative years.
So, while I like Gil's statement, it is aimed at a different community and situation than the implications of the above post.
Message Edited by Rhu on 12-10-2004 06:55 AM
Just WHAT in the Hell are you trying to say? Ohhhh...I get it. Rhu here is trying to shoot over the head of Orcajum by attempting to use some perceived fancy wording. All this does is make him look like some sort of trolling pompus ass defending the Devs in what isa decidedly ill-treated profession. And you've been around a wee bit (I remember names) so you should have some respect and tact for any of your fellow Smugglers, if you can even be called that.
Rhu, get hop along to work, bud. What you're doing trolling the Smuggler forum to try and shoot over our heads, I don't know, but it's just uncalled for.
If this is your take on how to talk to and about another Smuggler, then you've decided picked the wrong profession and/or forum to lurk in. I do not appreciate you being a part of this profession, which is a very tightly knit group, and making cracks at another Smuggler's childhood or parents. That's simply uncalled for and you're wrong.
If you bother to read some stickies or ElectronicNomad's Smugglers in SWG History thread, and had an ounce of compassion for your fellow Smugglers and their situation, you would let this stuff go instead of making snide, uncalled for remarks.
Everyone is entitled to their voice and opinion, but if this is any indication of how you plan on voicing your opinions in this forum, you, Johnny, have backed the wrong horse.
Rho replied on the thread with his opinion, he didn't created a thread just to taunt us or something. And his opinion is right on the mark. I do not think he was attacking Smugglers , he was making a comment about the SWG community in general. I really do not think Rho is trolling, or attacking any Smuggler in particular nor the proffession in general.
So I think you are reading too much into this post, NickHeel . You are right about the Smugglers community being a tightknit one, I love it for that, so let's not jump at each other's throats for a difference of opinion.
As for being arogant for using too complicated words, well, English is a second language to me and I had no problem understanding his post, so......
Message Edited by LaughingWolf on 12-10-2004 12:12 PM
My statement was simply meant to point out what i saw as an odd difference between the statements of a fictitious character SOE has created and SOE's own community relations strategy.
I will agree that there is a certain portion of the SWG population that will whine and complain if something they THINK they're going to get does not come to fruition. These are the same players who will find something to whine about regardless of what the Devs tell them anyway. On the other hand, I would trade 10 of those players for ONE Electronomad or Solo4114, players of intelligence and passion who may have remained in this game had their been a constant running dialogue between the people who design the game, and those who truely enjoy playing the game.
I would expect that everyone who has responded to this thread, and the vast majority in this profession forum, would rather hear information, a statement when some of that information would be changing, followed by a REASON that information changed, rather than the current wait-and-see situation we're all faced with.
Anyway, since I didn't expect this thread to spark even minor controversy among fellow smugglers, i'm 5-staring everyones' posts hoping to normalize everyone's ratings, and would hope others would follow suit. We, as smugglers, already have out backs against the wall it seems. No reason we should be putting vibroknives in eachothers' backs as well.
tralita_tusnami wrote:
now think of spaming our plight to the general population, set up a recurring macro, and poof off and running
now think of what would happen if all three were done, posably nothing, but last time i checked they didnt want us gathering in cities with large npc populations. NOT THAT I WOULD CONDONE ANY OF THE ABOVE THINGS EVER!!! but they are just a few ideas to produce a program memory spike, and most cases spikes are bad.
now DEV's please take our wishes in to consideration cause well, i would hate to see those things happen.