Smuggler Archive

Thread: Devs, we find your lack of communication disturbing.

AngusMacGregor
Thu Jul 21, 2005 9:12 am
#1

It amazes me how you've made posts somewhat recently saying thatyou are going to improve communication with the playerbase, and then it gets worse than ever.


Communication with the playerbase doesn't mean replying to people whining about their forum ranks, and ignoring all the professions who are having major problems.


Communication with the playerbase doesn't mean posting about Player Events and not much of anything else. Most of us would much rather hear about bugs that are getting fixed or how the scheduling is going on promised content. (ie. Smuggling missions)


Communication with the playerbase doesn't mean posting big smilies in threads just because they have your name in the title.


And mostly, communication with the playerbase doesn't mean not acknowledging major bugs in a "feature" that you've put in the game. (ie Slicing)


You've got people who have "Community Relations" in their title who do absolutely nothing to relate to the community in any real, meaningful way.Are they not doing their jobs, or are they told not to talk to us about most things? In either case, I would think that their positions are unneeded. Hire someone who will actually talk to us. It's gone past ridiculous and gone straight into outrageous.


I have little doubt that this thread will be unseen by you, because you'd actually have to come here to see it. However, I just got back from being banned for trying to get your attention in another forum. Nice customer relations, huh?


I can't help but put all of the blame on you, our SWG Dev Team, because I look at the EQ2 forums, and it seems likethat Dev Team, also SOE,has no problems with Community Relations in comparison.


Prove me wrong. I dare you. But don't blame me if I don't hold my breath.




"C O L O N E L A N G U S" M A C G R E G O R
DEAD SMUGGLER - KILLED BY LACK OF CONTENT AND COMMUNICATION
I am Jack's ignored profession.
My account payment has been moved to a long term implementation.
Aendracon
Thu Jul 21, 2005 9:28 am
#2

/QFE


Seriously, we are not terrorists. There is no harm in talking to us. We´ve been through allthis prior to the CU, we don´t need this again!





Ryian Coron - Elder Smuggler
"do not assume your customers are morons. odds are they know a lot more about the situation than you do because they live with it every day. listen to them, actually listen, and take what they say into account. you might save some money, morons."
- Fernas
Saarek
Thu Jul 21, 2005 9:29 am
#3

I used to have faith in the LA/SOE team - when I first started playing the game. And even while all the CU nay-sayers had their way - I kept myself optimistic.


Now that all that is overwith (what prompted the CU anyways...) Smuggler still can't smuggle. Squal Leaders cannot lead. There is no point to seeking a Dancer/Musician other than to look at some fine booty. Image Designers are meerely makeup specialists. And only God knows how many other professions are completely useless.


I am not one to lay blame - but SOE and Lucas Arts ruined my fun in this game.



To shame for you after ruining so many peoples enjoyments.







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S A A R E K "SIR WANKSALOT" C A R V A T H O S _Starsider. && _Corbantis.
M A S T E R S C O U N D R E L I AM JACK'S IGNORED PROFESSION
C O A L I T I O N O F T H E L O S T S M U G G L E R S .

Tante
Thu Jul 21, 2005 9:32 am
#4

Yeah, posted something similar a few days ago in the Ahazi forum (" Do Tiggs and Thunderheart really exist?").

Personally I think they are at the moment a huge problem and I decided to consider many problems their responsibility (instead of blaming Devs).



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magnum1138
Thu Jul 21, 2005 9:43 am
#5

But there are those nice pre-formated "bring out your bugs!" posts almost every day
- and oh the fun I have reading about someone being from New Jersey
- and the Toons we can't forget the Toons
- and the "sorry we did phrase it wrong in the patch notes - wouldn't have guessed someone would get mad" posts, (better we don't do patch notes anymore at all, works for everything else)
- and the "look someone who seems to care more about the game than we, has written an excellent guide, which is outdated but we found it and it was properly formatted already" Posts
- and oh yeah the Tuesday Tipps - I love to post them Tipps, luckily i have about a milion of them lined up, because since there's no current documentation just about everything is a secret tip.

Really Mr MacGregor you are overstating it. You, Player, you.
Cheers
Magnum
GanymedePharuu
Thu Jul 21, 2005 10:01 am
#6

can someone provide me with a list of video game websites?

i've written up a nice little message about our ongoing plight and i'd like to send it to every major gaming website.



cccccccccccccccccccc
Kohs V'sto
I wanted Smuggling for Christmas
but all i got was
<--- this stupid hat.

I am Jack's ignored profession.
Luke Skywalker is DEAD!
Aendracon
Thu Jul 21, 2005 10:03 am
#7

/summon the hawtness



Ryian Coron - Elder Smuggler
"do not assume your customers are morons. odds are they know a lot more about the situation than you do because they live with it every day. listen to them, actually listen, and take what they say into account. you might save some money, morons."
- Fernas
AngusMacGregor
Thu Jul 21, 2005 10:07 am
#8






Aendracon wrote:

/summon the hawtness




And in this corner, representing the Smuggler community, the Scoundreless herself, "Her Royal Hawtness", VEEEEEEEEEEEEEELLLAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!




"C O L O N E L A N G U S" M A C G R E G O R
DEAD SMUGGLER - KILLED BY LACK OF CONTENT AND COMMUNICATION
I am Jack's ignored profession.
My account payment has been moved to a long term implementation.
Jaspor
Thu Jul 21, 2005 10:22 am
#9

Totally right.


I mean, really, with all the frickin money they are making off of us, they should hire some "Community Relations" type person who doesnothingBUT answer reasonable questions on the forum all day.


Maybe attend a meeting or two with designer/developer types to get some answers and find out what's going on with the latest changes.


Whatever happened to that thing where they'd answer a few questions from each profession every week? How long did that last, like 2 months?


I think it's getting to the point where you have to start to question the morale over at their office. Maybe Tiggs and ThunderHeart are just so fed up with everything, they don't care any more and are looking to get off the sinking ship.


3 Simple Steps To Keeping the Community Happy


1.) Have the "Community Relations" peeps actually relate to the Community! Is it too much to ask for at least 1-5 meaningful posts every day?


2.) Listen to feedback! Ugh. This might be a bit harder to pull off since there's so much to listen to. But they do create these "Focus Threads", and then they ignore the info in them! There is no way in heck the crafting experimentation display bug should have made it to live when it was reported several times on Test Center!


3.) Make the Devs post on occasion. They must have more developers working on this massive game than just Blixtev, right? Take all the professions. Split them up. Assign certain professions to certain developers. Force them to (wait for it... wait for it....) actually PLAY the frickin profession! And insist they make an appearance at least once a week in the profession forum(s) they are responsible for and at least say "Hi guys, I am DevX, and I am responsible for the Donut Maker profession!"


I swear, they need to start firing people around there. It's really NOT that hard to keep players happy. It almost seems like they're going out of their way to piss us off.




Jaspor
Master Politician / Master Smuggler / Master Pistoleer
Imperial Colonel / Imperial Pilot Ace
Guildmaster of Guild of the Zodiac - Constellation, Naboo


Saarek
Thu Jul 21, 2005 10:26 am
#10

I have to say one mroe thing - SOE should really take a lesson from PlayNC.


I had a problem while playing City of Heroes the other day, and I was replied to within 24 hours of the problem's occurrance, AND they gave me a survey to fill out to rate the customer service experience.


Let me tell you I made specific mention to how much better their service was over that of SOE and I specifically pointed out how much it was appreciated.


After my survey was submitted - a CSR called me and gave me a free month of gametime through a game card he mailed out to me.



Now THAT is cusomter service. Even without the free month.





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"The Hawtness is my ally, and a powerful ally it is." RIP SAAREK CARVATHOS :: AUG 4, 2005
------
S A A R E K "SIR WANKSALOT" C A R V A T H O S _Starsider. && _Corbantis.
M A S T E R S C O U N D R E L I AM JACK'S IGNORED PROFESSION
C O A L I T I O N O F T H E L O S T S M U G G L E R S .

GanymedePharuu
Thu Jul 21, 2005 10:32 am
#11



Saarek wrote:
I have to say one mroe thing - SOE should really take a lesson from PlayNC.
I had a problem while playing City of Heroes the other day, and I was replied to within 24 hours of the problem's occurrance, AND they gave me a survey to fill out to rate the customer service experience.
Let me tell you I made specific mention to how much better their service was over that of SOE and I specifically pointed out how much it was appreciated.
After my survey was submitted - a CSR called me and gave me a free month of gametime through a game card he mailed out to me.
Now THAT is cusomter service. Even without the free month.





*blink blink*

wow, since this game is my first impression with the world of MMORPGs, i thought all MMORPG companies were pretty much like SOE.

thankfully i'm wrong.



cccccccccccccccccccc
Kohs V'sto
I wanted Smuggling for Christmas
but all i got was
<--- this stupid hat.

I am Jack's ignored profession.
Luke Skywalker is DEAD!
AngusMacGregor
Thu Jul 21, 2005 10:35 am
#12

I may just have to go buy CoH. It'd be nice to see some good customer service for a change.




"C O L O N E L A N G U S" M A C G R E G O R
DEAD SMUGGLER - KILLED BY LACK OF CONTENT AND COMMUNICATION
I am Jack's ignored profession.
My account payment has been moved to a long term implementation.
Aendracon
Thu Jul 21, 2005 10:46 am
#13






AngusMacGregor wrote:

I may just have to go buy CoH. It'd be nice to see some good customer service for a change.





Yeah, no idea if the game is crap, but that´ll be a nice change for once.



Ryian Coron - Elder Smuggler
"do not assume your customers are morons. odds are they know a lot more about the situation than you do because they live with it every day. listen to them, actually listen, and take what they say into account. you might save some money, morons."
- Fernas
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