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Thread: move fd to master, and here is how!

Fabs
Tue Feb 22, 2005 9:00 am
#1

theres isnt much that hasnt already been said about this.
the devs are being silly and catering to bh who like to whine about jedi/bh fd to avoid being killed.

this problem is threefold in cause

1 jedi are given xp loss when they get killed(extra if by bh) wouldnt you avoid xp loss if possible? especialy on a grind that is more mind numbing than the village crawl was.
2 bh hybrids are using fd to avoid death
3 devs hate smugglers

ok that being said 2 suggestions 1 move fd ability in pvp to master box of smuggler, keep the pve close to the same, but make it like the ranger area track tree, each level in dirty fighting u can use it against a better enemy. 1st box could be non npc enemys ie animals, second box could be low end fouth box could be high end npc and master smuggler could get pvp fd abilities.

not leaving the bh out, how about a skill at master that gives them a chance to unfiegn an opponent. that would keep the real bh in the game.

jedi xp loss is a touchy subject, i dont want to get into..... but all i will say to about it is, how would u bh like to get -5000 xp in your investigation tree everytime u didnt get a bounty?
fd was working as intended. the devs just are appealing to the money makers in this game the bh and jedi.

as a jedi and a smuggler (on 2 seperate toons) i see the advantages of fd and what it will mean to lose it.

the devs dont care, but i malke this plea nontheless.
master skills will fix the problem
flame or agree just bump it to see



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BruSwillis
Tue Feb 22, 2005 9:42 am
#2






Fabs wrote:

the devs dont care, but i malke this plea nontheless.
master skills will fix the problem
flame or agree just bump it to see




I loved FD at FD1, saved my ass a lot as i got Master Smuggler without pistoleer and found it to be tough going as I dont use doc buffs and had no medic skills. If it was moved to the Master box I would have been in big trouble.


The problem is in the skill. Feigning death is pretending to be dead to avoid actual death. While this is fine against mobs and lesser intelectual NPC's (players in a MMo are supposed to be the outstanding characters, and the NPC's the avarage everyday characters) it is not fine against players in PvP combat as they will not be fooled by your attempts at playing dead.
These players, not believing you, should and would then finish you off (proof they do not fall for it is in the fact that they kill your armour or blackbar you) but in the current live version they cannot do that.
This is wrong and now the Devs have rectified this by taking FD away from PvP (not PvE) there is no need to change FD now or put it in the master box, FD in PvP is/was lame, this is a great fix.






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Fabs
Tue Feb 22, 2005 10:07 am
#3

ok i get the bh proving you are dead, thats why i was suggesting bh master get the fd stopper. they have gotten so good at hunting that they know when someone is faking



IHI reminds you If you're not a HUNTER you're just another target
Fleabagg: Furry Jediknight and Rebel Ace Pilot


Dirtbagg: Shiftless layabout and scoundrel

...has mastered the Pilot profession

The force is like duck-tape. It has a LIGHT side a DARK side and seems to hold the universe together.
SmugglinZane
Tue Feb 22, 2005 10:10 am
#4






BruSwillis wrote:


I loved FD at FD1, saved my ass a lot as i got Master Smuggler without pistoleer and found it to be tough going as I dont use doc buffs and had no medic skills. If it was moved to the Master box I would have been in big trouble.


The problem is in the skill. Feigning death is pretending to be dead to avoid actual death. While this is fine against mobs and lesser intelectual NPC's (players in a MMo are supposed to be the outstanding characters, and the NPC's the avarage everyday characters) it is not fine against players in PvP combat as they will not be fooled by your attempts at playing dead.
These players, not believing you, should and would then finish you off (proof they do not fall for it is in the fact that they kill your armour or blackbar you) but in the current live version they cannot do that.
This is wrong and now the Devs have rectified this by taking FD away from PvP (not PvE) there is no need to change FD now or put it in the master box, FD in PvP is/was lame, this is a great fix.






Yeah, but I know a lot of mobs and NPCs that are a lot smarter than some of the people who play this game!




"Jedi claims of being "broken" are like saying "But my TV isn't widescreen! It's broken! My TV can't show high-def pictures in 1080i, it can only do 720i! It's broken!" Meanwhile, crafters are saying "We'd really like to have a TV that's larger than 12" and gets more than 4 channels and doesn't constantly lose vertical control", and entertainers are saying "Can we get some color instead of this B&W piece of junk?" And smugglers? We're listening to radio programs of "The Shadow" and "The Abbot and Costello Comedy Hour" and hearing FDR's Fireside Chats. We don't even HAVE a damn TV, much less a broken one or a "broken" one by Jedi standards. I'd LOVE to be as "broken" as they are." - The Legendary Solo4114
Jaguarrr
Tue Feb 22, 2005 10:15 am
#5






SmugglinZane wrote:





BruSwillis wrote:


I loved FD at FD1, saved my ass a lot as i got Master Smuggler without pistoleer and found it to be tough going as I dont use doc buffs and had no medic skills. If it was moved to the Master box I would have been in big trouble.


The problem is in the skill. Feigning death is pretending to be dead to avoid actual death. While this is fine against mobs and lesser intelectual NPC's (players in a MMo are supposed to be the outstanding characters, and the NPC's the avarage everyday characters) it is not fine against players in PvP combat as they will not be fooled by your attempts at playing dead.
These players, not believing you, should and would then finish you off (proof they do not fall for it is in the fact that they kill your armour or blackbar you) but in the current live version they cannot do that.
This is wrong and now the Devs have rectified this by taking FD away from PvP (not PvE) there is no need to change FD now or put it in the master box, FD in PvP is/was lame, this is a great fix.






Yeah, but I know a lot of mobs and NPCs that are a lot smarter than some of the people who play this game!








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VTmoon
Wed Feb 23, 2005 8:07 am
#6






Jaguarrr wrote:





SmugglinZane wrote:





BruSwillis wrote:


I loved FD at FD1, saved my ass a lot as i got Master Smuggler without pistoleer and found it to be tough going as I dont use doc buffs and had no medic skills. If it was moved to the Master box I would have been in big trouble.


The problem is in the skill. Feigning death is pretending to be dead to avoid actual death. While this is fine against mobs and lesser intelectual NPC's (players in a MMo are supposed to be the outstanding characters, and the NPC's the avarage everyday characters) it is not fine against players in PvP combat as they will not be fooled by your attempts at playing dead.
These players, not believing you, should and would then finish you off (proof they do not fall for it is in the fact that they kill your armour or blackbar you) but in the current live version they cannot do that.
This is wrong and now the Devs have rectified this by taking FD away from PvP (not PvE) there is no need to change FD now or put it in the master box, FD in PvP is/was lame, this is a great fix.






Yeah, but I know a lot of mobs and NPCs that are a lot smarter than some of the people who play this game!








Hahaha ^^


yeah those damn nunas











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