Smuggler Archive
Thread: TOW/SOE BS
Ok maybe I am just biased here. Maybe because I grew up with StarWars I have a clouded view of things and how it was in the movies and books. The last time I checked, Smugglers smuggled in the movies and books. They dabbled in all of the different areas of crime. According to SOE however Smugglers are Methlab owners, and Faction Farmers and Weapon upgraders. That is it. Our crowd control abilities are well not what was promised to us, we have sometimes patiently and impatiently awaited our Smuggler Revamp that was promised to us. How long has that been now? 28 months or so roughly. Now we get a slap in the face again by SOE. Not only is Mustafar basically a Jedi expansion, but Smugglers get NOTHING from the planet. We can't even slice the damn weapons Others get from there. **edit** is that all about? Tiggs, JFreeman do you guys hate us is that what it is? I have watched this community BEG, plead, grovel, curse, fuss, scream, and leave over this same basic problem. What is SOOOO difficult to understand? If you are going to force us to buy a new expansion every 6 months, AT LEAST make it for EVERYONE not everyone BUT smugglers. Here is a hint SOE Devs... FIX THE PROBLEMS WITH THE GAME YOU HAVE NOW BEFORE ADDING EXPANSIONS! How many professions have you broken, fixed, revamped? Well lets see, BH, CH, Commando, SL, Entertainers, Crafters, Jedi(multiple times). And believe me I am not saying those professions didn't need the love because they did. I am saying FOLLOW up with what you promise. We are all sick and tired of being sick and tired over this. Every other profession that has needed fixed has been fixed. It is OUR TURN for the fixes that are needed. You see it as adding content? We see it as FIXING THE PROFESSION THAT HAS BEEN BROKEN SINCE IT WAS CREATED!
Stick with plans to fix things? Ok FIX THEM. How many bugs have been in game since Launch? FIX THEM. How many new bugs are introduced with each new publish? FIX THEM. How many new bugs are introduced with each Expansion pack?? FIX THE DAMNED BUGS! Stop making us spend $30 a pop every few months for a new expansion that just screws up when you get it, introduces another 100 bugs, and completely ignores and leaves out professions within SWG. You say you love this game too? PROVE IT! Show us how much you love it because from where we are sitting, the only love you have is the "Prison type" of love. We want our game back. We want our profession Working like it should be. We want you devs to stop ignoring us, to show us the same type of love every other profession, and Expansion gets from you. FIX us PLEASE.
Wyzcheky
Still unable to smuggle and NOW unable to slice any of the new weapons Thanx SOE for another "Bend over and grab your ankles moment"
Yes, SOE is responsable for bugs and quite likely a lot of poor design decisions (from some people's perspective). But if LucasArts wants movie tie ins, and gives release dates, SOE probably has to jump.
Velneth wrote:
Actually, I think that the existance of the RotW and ToO expansions was LucasArts initiated. Think "movie tie ins" which is what made Lucas so much money to begin with. JTL seemed to have come with more of the Devs careing about what they were creating.
Yes, SOE is responsable for bugs and quite likely a lot of poor design decisions (from some people's perspective). But if LucasArts wants movie tie ins, and gives release dates, SOE probably has to jump.
So logically they should start fixing professions since there are no more movies to make expasions about..well besides the ORIGINAL Star Wars seeing as this is set between the battle of Yavin (Episode IV A New Hope) and the battle of Hoth (Episode V Empire Strikes Back). Maybe there could be an expasion about these movies that started it all. Maybe we could stick to the time line like you say you like to SOE.
Oh and by the way there are 3 powerful force sensitive people in the universe right now and there names are Luke Skywalker, Darth Vader, Emperor Palapitine. Remember the Jedi slaughter in your sacraed perquales which is all you seem to worry about. So maybe make this game set in the proper time as best you can since you've all ready messed it up so much. Just let each profession do what hey are suposed to. If you can't do this why did you put these professions in. Don't promise what you can't provide.
So to make sure you know what my main points are here you go.
1. We need to stick with the time line you set up originally
2. Fix professions before you screw up more. Once you get them fixed then you can screw them up with expansions and publishes but fix what wrong first.
Ok I'm done andI realize this will make no differance what so ever seeing as the only time we getDEVs or others in here is when there is a argumentbutI needed to rant
/sigh
I'm going to go cry now
Velneth wrote:
Actually, I think that the existance of the RotW and ToO expansions was LucasArts initiated. Think "movie tie ins" which is what made Lucas so much money to begin with. JTL seemed to have come with more of the Devs careing about what they were creating.
Yes, SOE is responsable for bugs and quite likely a lot of poor design decisions (from some people's perspective). But if LucasArts wants movie tie ins, and gives release dates, SOE probably has to jump.
QFE...
My REAL problem with this expansion isn't the timeline, it isn't not being able to slice weapons (although that does bug the pi$$ out of me), it's that the ONLY Smuggler "perk" is the hardest damn thing to get. I tried for hours last night to get the YT-2400...HOURS! It's the only reason I got the expansion (that and the bunker house, that rocks), so let me fly it. Meh!
When a jedi guild mate told that he had just received this item, I somehow thought of a reduced smuggler role in this game.....
Hetnikik wrote:
Is true there's no Space content at all around Mustafar??? If so why the phuc not how hard is it to copy the code from any other space content and make a few randompoints for ships to spawn.I mean come on is SOE really that lazy. Come on guys. Copy paste is the lazy persons friend.
If there is Space content above mustafar please disregard this message i am unable to check for myself till next week.
Message Edited by Hetnikik on 10-26-2005 03:18 PM
Mustafar has no space sector. No Space sector...no need for me to get the expansion.
/sigh
I still say they should have just named us "Scoundrel" from the start.
At least there's no more prequels for SOE to cash in on. Maybe they will actually focus on the game now that Lucas has nothing else to release. If we're lucky, he'll put all six movies out in a box set and some focus will shift to the "old school" trilogy, which is actually supposed to be the "current school".
BeigeKnight wrote:
At least there's no more prequels for SOE to cash in on. Maybe they will actually focus on the game now that Lucas has nothing else to release. If we're lucky, he'll put all six movies out in a box set and some focus will shift to the "old school" trilogy, which is actually supposed to be the "current school".
This is what i'm personally banking on. If i'm wrong, well, i'll simply cancel.
VegitoX wrote:
BeigeKnight wrote:
At least there's no more prequels for SOE to cash in on. Maybe they will actually focus on the game now that Lucas has nothing else to release. If we're lucky, he'll put all six movies out in a box set and some focus will shift to the "old school" trilogy, which is actually supposed to be the "current school".
This is what i'm personally banking on. If i'm wrong, well, i'll simply cancel.
QFE
Sorry always wanted to do that
No, they've milked the movies for all the cash. Now they'll let the game whither and die because they have other games to "worry about" Or they'll release a new game.
Cause**edit** knows it's easier to make a whole new game than it is to fix one that's already there.
/sarcasmoff
I really hope/pray/plead they'll concentrate on the bugs. And maybe, just maybe
us.
BeigeKnight wrote:
At least there's no more prequels for SOE to cash in on. Maybe they will actually focus on the game now that Lucas has nothing else to release. If we're lucky, he'll put all six movies out in a box set and some focus will shift to the "old school" trilogy, which is actually supposed to be the "current school".
Umm, youunderestimate when they come out with the prequel trilogy pack, and/or the complet 6 movie pack.
I can see the announcement. SOE and LA announce plans for their next expansion, "Secrets of the Sith" to coincide with the release of the new complete saga dvd pack.
/puke
Message Edited by SmugglinZane on 10-26-2005 11:08 PM