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Thread: HoC SWG Chat log

Saratoga
Thu Aug 25, 2005 3:37 pm
#79

There wasnt any info given by the DEVs that would make we want to participate in a HoC again. They should expect to come to this and give some new information to the players rather than vague answers to the same old questions.






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Ternque01
Thu Aug 25, 2005 3:41 pm
#80






Saratoga wrote:

There wasnt any info given by the DEVs that would make we want to participate in a HoC again. They should expect to come to this and give some new information to the players rather than vague answers to the same old questions.








That is the way HoC chats have been held in the past. It is nice to know that this game's producers are good at destroying things other than the Star Wars story.



Axob Freelight
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nefarious
Thu Aug 25, 2005 4:06 pm
#81


I've asked before but I'll ask again, What is the purpose of having a chat if all of your answers are "we can't say now".


If you can't discuss a topic then don't chose that as the one up for discussion.


Also what was with every question that was answered "Is this a jedi only expansion?". I'm sure people were asking more than that, all you do is answer about 15 questions before you all say it is time to go. pick different questions.





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QuiJonOz
Thu Aug 25, 2005 4:12 pm
#82






MajorXP wrote:
I'm disappointed that the scope was limited to a topic to which they could not discuss beyond anything that has not been already released.



I'm not sure why this game has turned into a super-secret development project.

/





QFE



"That being said, without going into any specifics, there will be a few surprises in store"


"not all of the features are ready to be announced yet"


"is outside of the scope we can talk about at this time."


"No, there is no estimate right now."


"so stay tuned it will be announced soon."


"But you are all going to have to stay tuned for further details."


Do you guys realize what thin ice you're on with many players? I really have to wonder how close SWG is to closing down given the way SOE ticks off players left and right. This Expansion could well be make or break for this game, and unless you quit playing coy and tell us what we can expect, a lot of folks won't buy it. Playing "secret, secret" isn't cute or clever, it's annoying. You should have not held this chat until you could give us some solid info.


But one thing you did let slip despite claims that everyone will be able to enjoy the quests... crafters are out of luck. "Primarily combat" means CL1 not welcome... "higher percentage" of loot dropped as schematics means little.


If you want to get more of my money, you need to convince me I should give it to you.



No decay + uber loot = /spit on crafters

Fix the economy and give crafters their $$$ worth... give us real revamp.

Remember... to Cancel you have to go to Register Expansion in the Launchpad.

Serraphin
Thu Aug 25, 2005 4:14 pm
#83






QuiJonOz wrote:





MajorXP wrote:
I'm disappointed that the scope was limited to a topic to which they could not discuss beyond anything that has not been already released.



I'm not sure why this game has turned into a super-secret development project.

/





QFE



"That being said, without going into any specifics, there will be a few surprises in store"


"not all of the features are ready to be announced yet"


"is outside of the scope we can talk about at this time."


"No, there is no estimate right now."


"so stay tuned it will be announced soon."


"But you are all going to have to stay tuned for further details."


Do you guys realize what thin ice you're on with many players? I really have to wonder how close SWG is to closing down given the way SOE ticks off players left and right. This Expansion could well be make or break for this game, and unless you quit playing coy and tell us what we can expect, a lot of folks won't buy it. Playing "secret, secret" isn't cute or clever, it's annoying. You should have not held this chat until you could give us some solid info.


But one thing you did let slip despite claims that everyone will be able to enjoy the quests... crafters are out of luck. "Primarily combat" means CL1 not welcome... "higher percentage" of loot dropped as schematics means little.


If you want to get more of my money, you need to convince me I should give it to you.




One has to wonder if they care. How many of the competing MMORPGs do they own ro develop. If you leave here they have a good chance to pick up your money over on one of their other products.

Zotux
Thu Aug 25, 2005 4:20 pm
#84






Serraphin wrote:








One has to wonder if they care. How many of the competing MMORPGs do they own ro develop. If you leave here they have a good chance to pick up your money over on one of their other products.







One thing is for sure....... If I leave SWG because I'm unhappy with it, I guarantee I will never play annother SOE game again. If that means I have to give up MMORPG's to meet that goal, so be it.

I am also looking forward very much to ST online, but if SOE gets ahold of it, forget it...won't be worth all this happening to it.

However, If I leave just cause it is time to move on, SOE MIGHT get a second chance.




Galio Lan'Dofo
BOSS
QuiJonOz
Thu Aug 25, 2005 4:26 pm
#85



One has to wonder if they care. How many of the competing MMORPGs do they own ro develop. If you leave here they have a good chance to pick up your money over on one of their other products.






I will *not* play another SOE game. I'm in SWG because it's Star Wars, and SOE keeps straying farther and farther from continuity. It looks a lot like they don't care about Star Wars, they just want to make a quick buck, because they are destroying the game's long-term life to appeal to glowstick-kiddies.



No decay + uber loot = /spit on crafters

Fix the economy and give crafters their $$$ worth... give us real revamp.

Remember... to Cancel you have to go to Register Expansion in the Launchpad.

snltoonces
Thu Aug 25, 2005 4:55 pm
#86






Ternque01 wrote:


Tiggs, how can these producers, in their right mind, watch the only endgame for non-Jedi, the Galactic Civil War, fall directly into Jedi clutches? Non-Jedi are forced out of their endgame while Jedi will have the new FRS, Mustafar, AND the GCW at the end of the day.


How in the HELL is that supposed to be a fun place for non-Jedi players.


I am really so disgusted at the REFUSAL to ensure a viable endgame for non-Jedi players, be that through not adding non-Jedi content, i.e. a smuggling system, or by refusing to address the Jedi domination of the GCW.


Many smugglers might not like you, Tiggs, but I know that you are a person doing a specific job, which involves not calling these horrible game-direction decisions. I know that I can count on you to relay to those in chargethat many non-Jedi out there are PISSED OFF about the very REAL situation of their endgames being given to Jedi players and the griefing we endure from Jedi players in the GCW.


I, like others before me, have cancelled my account until two things happen: the place of non-Jedi in the GCW is protected and smugglers ACTUALLY GET A SMUGGLING GIG.








Hold on a second, there is and "End Game"?!?


We've been waiting over two years now for the "Galactic Civil War" to be implemented. All we have now is a very poorly conceived scoreboard.





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KloudRunner
Thu Aug 25, 2005 5:26 pm
#87

you know whats sad, they had a chance.....a good solid chance to calm everyone and start agian with a clean slate. They good have let us into some nice new info, put many minds at ease and actually answer questions based on current and future publishes. SOE do you think your somewhat cryptic answers are going to sate our thirst ?

























NAH EH THAT JUST AINT GONNA CUT


You had it.....and you BLEW IT.......i came home today actually looking forward to reading what was said, what info would there be for Smugglers.....HO HO NONE WHAT SO EVER. You wanna see what happens when you put a silly sod in a suit in charge who doesnt know his mouth from his A hole and set him loose to the community to answer questoins....let me draw a picture since it'd be easy to understand.....





CANCEL ACCOUNT


Thats what many players are now thinking about. I do NOT believe for a second i am stretching the truth. You claim you have sold 1 million copys of the game. Well whoop de friggin do i bet WoW is just poo'ing with envy. How many subscribers do you have ? please be honest with us and let us know cause i bet its a low one....



Yes i will still keep playing. No i wont buy this expanssion. Why do i keep playing ? Its simple i wanna see you squirm your way out of all the turd thats about to hit the fan when this expanssion comes out. After that i wanna see your faces when account after account gets canceld. Beyond ? well who knows but i am gonna be here, every step fo the damn way making damn sure you know WE the SMUGGLER community exist and not only do we have feelings which have been lied to and betrayed time and time again but we also have wallets and when the time comes when the game is shut down and were all being asked to leave i'll be the last one and you'll be dragging me outta the forums and i'll STILL be screaming for my smuggler revamp.


WE THE SMUGGLERS WILL NOT DIE


/throwsmicdown




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Nezodon
Thu Aug 25, 2005 5:29 pm
#88

Im struggling to understand what the secrets are about because this is the only star wars MMO out there and people arnt asking for the devs to explain game mechanic's, all people want is to know what is happening and this dev chat avoided alot of questions which would have been helpful while answering the ones which i could answer.





Jorrai Takkori
Elder jedi
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Rhu
Thu Aug 25, 2005 5:43 pm
#89






Nezodon wrote:

Im struggling to understand what the secrets are about because this is the only star wars MMO out there and people arnt asking for the devs to explain game mechanic's, all people want is to know what is happening and this dev chat avoided alot of questions which would have been helpful while answering the ones which i could answer.







Application for employment at SOE community relations follows:


Dear sir or madam,


You want to know secrets?!


You'll just have to wait and see!!!


But you'll be AMAZED when you

see them! Count on it!!!!!!




Luv,

Kanga-Rhu



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Fernas
Thu Aug 25, 2005 7:20 pm
#90


crap chat, crap responses from the red names in this thread.


in my line of work i deal with PR people every fricken day. and i do have to say that we are being fed the same crap every PR person shovels out. "let's focus on the big happy shiny things and completely ignore all the bad stuf!!!! weee!!!! and if anyone is ten times brighter than me and sees through my crappy act i'll just ignore their valid and informed questions!! smiley!!!!! smiley!!!! weee!!!"



pathetic.




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Fighters fight.
Crafters craft.
Healers heal.
Smugglers do not smuggle.
Tiggs
Thu Aug 25, 2005 7:33 pm
#91






Rhu wrote:






Tiggs wrote:
Nope it is all done for free.




So it is just being used as another marketing outlet for canned replies to predictable questions on narrow topics, then?


At least that's how I read all the, "We can't answer, but believe me, you can't wait!" replies. :/



Edit: What I was hoping that the HoC chats were were an opportunity to discuss and understand the nature and direction of the present and future of the game.

Message Edited by Rhu on 08-25-2005 05:13 PM





HoC chats are an opportunity to discuss the topic at hand. Last night's chat discussion was based upon the new expansion announcement and experience changes from last week.


We can only answer questions that pretain to those chat discussions. Players submit the questions to question takers and they are forwarded on to us during the chat. There will always be certain topics we can't discuss due to trade secrets so to speak.
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