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Thread: Smugglers you are no more! You are NOW Officially known as Enchanters!
Message Edited by JTGAlpha on 03-30-2005 03:54 PM
Smuggler_Caylin wrote:
Mentski wrote:
What do Mezzers do - help avoid "entanglements"
What was Han hired to do?
Seduce women. That's all he pretty much does for all three movies. It's all about style and the ladies.
I still think we need a pimp skill tree.
Um.. Han actually did do a form of "crowd control" in the movie. When Greedo approached him, if I remember correctly, his (Greedo's) gun was drawn, Han's wasn't. Han distracted him (could be considered a form of crowd control) long enough to get himself in a position to take Greedo out. He didn't just quick draw and blow Greedo's brains out, he smooth talked him to get the advantage. Personally, I'm going to wait until I get to try it myself before I decide if I like it. But if "crowd control" by a smuggler means smooth talking to distract opponents while putting yourself in a better position to win, I'm all for it
silversaber wrote:
I am notcomplaining about the skills, I justhate therole SoEhas positioned the Smuggler profession.
It is NOT a role that matches what I see of Smugglers in the Movies. Han took out Greedo in ONE shot, not mezzing him and running for his life.
But then again, I guess expecting this game to be like the Movies is too much to ask for.
Also, please don't forget Lando when listing movie smugglers. He's way cooler, not to mention more sucessful prior to a certain visit by a Dark Lord of the Sith.
yimaz wrote:
Smuggler_Caylin wrote:
Mentski wrote:
What do Mezzers do - help avoid "entanglements"
What was Han hired to do?
Seduce women. That's all he pretty much does for all three movies. It's all about style and the ladies.
I still think we need a pimp skill tree.
JTGAlpha wrote:
Yeah, Silver, I think you're problem here is you are making too big a connection. We are Mezzers in that we control crowds. But we've ALWAYS done that. Panic shot. Low Blow. Even Last Ditch USED to have a "Stunning" effect. We're not mezzers in that we cast spells, or sing songs. We're mezzers in that we know how to make you duck for cover, or cause pain, or blind you or in some way slow you down while Chewie rips your arms off.
I mean COME ON! What about being a smuggler says our role should be Nukes or Tanks? And I've been disagreeing with you for years now, silver, when did that stop you from having an opinion?![]()
Sigh. Maybe not Nukes or Tanks.
Its just that this has hit me out of right field. I have never thought of Smugglers as mezzers.
What compounded my disagreeement about this was thier classification of Pistoleers as crowd control.
What was a relatively decent dammage combo of Smuggler/Pistoleer that I loved is no longer that.
I guess since everyone likes the idea, it looks likeim the odd man out on disagreeing.Sincethis is the case, my bitching will not likely get any support, so im going to have to accept it grudgingly.
Though theattitudes of some of the peeps here have roused my competitive spirit (you know what I mean, you've been on the recieving end of it often enough
), im going to let it go.
I still dont like it though.
silversaber wrote:
JTGAlpha wrote:Yeah, Silver, I think you're problem here is you are making too big a connection. We are Mezzers in that we control crowds. But we've ALWAYS done that. Panic shot. Low Blow. Even Last Ditch USED to have a "Stunning" effect. We're not mezzers in that we cast spells, or sing songs. We're mezzers in that we know how to make you duck for cover, or cause pain, or blind you or in some way slow you down while Chewie rips your arms off.I mean COME ON! What about being a smuggler says our role should be Nukes or Tanks? And I've been disagreeing with you for years now, silver, when did that stop you from having an opinion?![]()
Sigh. Maybe not Nukes or Tanks.
Its just that this has hit me out of right field. I have never thought of Smugglers as mezzers.
What compounded my disagreeement about this was thier classification of Pistoleers as crowd control.
What was a relatively decent dammage combo of Smuggler/Pistoleer that I loved is no longer that.How do you know it will no longer be so? Please don't make assumptions.
I guess since everyone likes the idea, it looks like im the odd man out on disagreeing. Since this is the case, my bitching will not likely get any support, so im going to have to accept it grudgingly.Its not neccisarily that we like or dislike what we're being given. Its the fact that we're actually being given a role in combat which is what makes us happy.
Though the attitudes of some of the peeps here have roused my competitive spirit (you know what I mean, you've been on the recieving end of it often enough
) , im going to let it go.HALLELUJAH!!
I still dont like it though.
Message Edited by Nicolas_Frost on 03-30-2005 06:59 PM
silversaber wrote:
JTGAlpha wrote:Yeah, Silver, I think you're problem here is you are making too big a connection. We are Mezzers in that we control crowds. But we've ALWAYS done that. Panic shot. Low Blow. Even Last Ditch USED to have a "Stunning" effect. We're not mezzers in that we cast spells, or sing songs. We're mezzers in that we know how to make you duck for cover, or cause pain, or blind you or in some way slow you down while Chewie rips your arms off.I mean COME ON! What about being a smuggler says our role should be Nukes or Tanks? And I've been disagreeing with you for years now, silver, when did that stop you from having an opinion?![]()
Sigh. Maybe not Nukes or Tanks.
Its just that this has hit me out of right field. I have never thought of Smugglers as mezzers.
What compounded my disagreeement about this was thier classification of Pistoleers as crowd control.
What was a relatively decent dammage combo of Smuggler/Pistoleer that I loved is no longer that.
I guess since everyone likes the idea, it looks like im the odd man out on disagreeing. Since this is the case, my bitching will not likely get any support, so im going to have to accept it grudgingly.
Though the attitudes of some of the peeps here have roused my competitive spirit (you know what I mean, you've been on the recieving end of it often enough
) , im going to let it go.
I still dont like it though.
Its not your opinion everyone disagrees with its the manner it is presented in. Instead of coming in and saying: I disagree with the changes in the CU, here are the reasons why....and starting a calm, helpful, fun debate, you came in screaming and proceded to get flamed and spit at. I am more then willing to listen to an opinion thats not the same as mine as long as they are not screaming and bitching.
-my 2cr
Muah wrote:
Its not your opinion everyone disagrees with its the manner it is presented in. Instead of coming in and saying: I disagree with the changes in the CU, here are the reasons why....and starting a calm, helpful, fun debate, you came in screaming and proceded to get flamed and spit at. I am more then willing to listen to an opinion thats not the same as mine as long as they are not screaming and bitching.
-my 2cr
Muah, you dont know the half of how enraged I was when I posted.
For me , it was a veryrestrained post for what I was feeling at the time.
Anyways, if you folks dont like the wayI posted, well so be it. I dont post on these forums to win any popularity contests.
When I have something to say, I will say it. Ask JTGAlpha, and any of the other Pre-BetaForums Vets. Its earned me some lumps now and then, and even a 3-day vacation from the Forums.
But despite thatI will continue to post what I feel about this game, probably until the very day they perma-ban me (for which I hope never comes).
Please dont take this post as a flame to you or anyone else. I am merely stateing my position, one that I have held ever since posting on this games Forums long before this Game shipped.
yimaz wrote:
DrevenStrobe wrote:
I'm more of a Talon Karrde or Booster Terrik fan, myself. - fanboy
(jk)
I draw my influence from Chris Farley, Tom Cruise, and a particular FemiNazi professor I currently have!
Ternque01 wrote:
yimaz wrote:
DrevenStrobe wrote:I'm more of a Talon Karrde or Booster Terrik fan, myself. - fanboy
(jk)
I draw my influence from Chris Farley, Tom Cruise, and a particular FemiNazi professor I currently have!
I model myself after, well, myself, and take inspiration from the old family business... "produce"