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Thread: jedi getting another patch? *sigh

tralita_tusnami
Sat Jun 04, 2005 9:32 pm
#53

its not a race thing or a profession thing or any type of equality of you got your now let me get mine. its the fact that JEDI are and have distroyed the GCW and PVP, they distroyed the TEF system which im in total favor for.


what have the jedi done that is good in the game?. . . . . . . . NOTHING


there is a reason that VADER killed them all, its cause he knew long long long ago that if they were ever in a game they would ruin it. remember way long ago before jedi


there were large group hunts


guilds actualy had wars


people got punished by killing certain types of NPC (TEF SYSTEM)


GCW was a nightly activity


people stayed with professions



jedi created the solo grind, guild wars were stoped because most people were grinding, the jedi were killing the npc and were getting TEF attacted by large groups of people OWWWW thats what sposto happen, GCW DOSENT ANYMORE, VERY FEW PEOPLE stay as a profession, infact i know most people that i know that actualy just quit instead of playing cause of the jedi





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HOTDOG
Sat Jun 04, 2005 9:43 pm
#54






MsNiL wrote:






Capt_Baobab wrote:
again, i must point out the following...
Jedi are at the top of the food chain in this game.
you, are playing a jedi.
i'm not picking on you, i just think that your trying to put out a grease fire, by throwing water on it.. you're only going to spread the flame..and the damage...



Dont you see that the word "Jedi" here could be replaced by lots of things such as "Black", "Woman", "British" and in all cases it would be equally ignorant and wrong.






I hear what you are saying MsNIL.


I hate the fact that a lot of discussion has dropped to "mundanes" and "Jedi". But you are not going to solve anything by battling chewing our ear.


You would do FAR better addressing "Nerf Smuggler" threads started by others in your profession, like Freak88. We'd all get behind you on that and it would be refreshing to see a Jedi in our forums that wasn't here hell bent on ruining our profession And laughing in our face about it.







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Capt_Baobab
Sat Jun 04, 2005 9:45 pm
#55

ok.. i am no longer going to respond to this. i am NOT getting dragged into a political/religeous flamewar.. when someone starts playing the "prejudice" card. they're no longer looking for a discussion, they're looking for a donnybrook. This will not end well, and i refuse to be drawn into an OBVIOUS plan to get people banned.



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Evayy
Sat Jun 04, 2005 9:58 pm
#56

Unfortunetly we know how it ends already, another abilityof ours nerfed, a publish for them ( since there are more of them) and in the mean time we continue waiting, for sometime in the future, and slicing remains unfixed, pub ten auto pull bug still around , and faction points still seem to be the part that is currently working ...........
MsNiL
Sun Jun 05, 2005 4:12 am
#57




bountyhunterGeist wrote:
for one MsNil i total disagree with you calling BH's jedi hunters. We jedi are not suppose to be in contact with anyone during this time period of the game.We are "suppose to be in hiding" so you get vis and get bountied which inturns cause BH's to hunt us. as for smugglers yes they need there revamp and soon fixes in slicing and missions to smuggle. i agree with the fact smugglers don't have nuthing in the game for them and they need some form of content for them. CU has broke alot of stuff in all professions jedi included. but coming here and flaming them cause they want some love is just wrong. Other profession need attention to. and on this last part of this post i have to say let's get things fixed in all profession and some content for the ones that have none.




I call Bounty Hunters for Jedi Hunters becouse I was a Bounty Hunter for 7 month and was not given a single mission that didnt have to do with "Jedi Population Control". I wanted to shoot down the idiots who spent every day camping Mining Outpost, killing NPC's as they appeared.Thismade me somewhat pissed at the entire watered down BH concept.


I have made a few Bounty Hunter proposals in the past that involves Bounty Hunters to be able to hunt players based on faction and PvP rating, not just "Jedi". Until this is done, Bounty Hunters will remain as nothing more than "Jedi Population Control".


We may sit here and discuss smuggler revamp (i do not speak against a smuggler revamp) but I promote a Bounty Hunter revamp too, that actually allow you to be a Bounty Hunter. If that happens I will remake Seani to a BH/Riflewoman at once.


I wish for the smugglers to be able to smuggle as much as I wish for Bounty Hunters to take bounties that have substance. I do not come here to flame them becouse they want some love. I have read many constructive Smuggler proposals in the past, and I agree to most of them. I came here, becouse they blame me, personally, by blaming "all Jedi" instead of SoE for their misery.





--- Cancelled 24th November 2006
Reason: The lack of multiplayer pve content and Star Wars feel.
For 3 years I have tried to find excuses to stay in game but only the expansions offered me what I subscribed for in the first place: A multiplayer Star Wars pve experience with friends around the globe. I found friends but with almost no addition of pve content they dropped out one by one. Now it's my turn.
MsNiL
Sun Jun 05, 2005 4:19 am
#58



HOTDOG wrote:
I hear what you are saying MsNIL.

I hate the fact that a lot of discussion has dropped to "mundanes" and "Jedi". But you are not going to solve anything by battling chewing our ear.


You would do FAR better addressing "Nerf Smuggler" threads started by others in your profession, like Freak88. We'd all get behind you on that and it would be refreshing to see a Jedi in our forums that wasn't here hell bent on ruining our profession And laughing in our face about it.






If you want to see my true standings regarding "Nerf Smuggler" threads, then I want you to see the following proposal I posted in the Jedi forum a week ago.


http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=jedi&message.id=942962


I want you to pay particular attention to number four, and I want to tell you that I have pushed that point as much as I can. I report every thread in the Jedi forum who requests Smuggler or any other profession to be "nerfed" as hatemongering.


"4. Any posts with the sole reason to attempt to reduce another professions useability without suggesting a proper replacement should be closed. They suceed with nothing but one thing: giving us a worser reputation than we already have. And yes; this includes "Nerf teh BH" and "Close teh terminals" threads, unless they adress a exploit together with proper description of why its an exploit together with proper evidence. More than Jedi have the right to play this game, and with our power comes the responsibility of making sure non-jedi players have the right to play and have fun."


Yes, I am truly tired of all nerf threads regardless who they aim at or who started them.




--- Cancelled 24th November 2006
Reason: The lack of multiplayer pve content and Star Wars feel.
For 3 years I have tried to find excuses to stay in game but only the expansions offered me what I subscribed for in the first place: A multiplayer Star Wars pve experience with friends around the globe. I found friends but with almost no addition of pve content they dropped out one by one. Now it's my turn.
Arcadias
Sun Jun 05, 2005 6:54 am
#59






AndrewGoentzel wrote:

Do you have any idea how long smuggler's have been waiting for their revamp, only to have it pushed back again and again and again? Jedi have already had a patch devoted to them.So far its Jedi-1 Smuggler-0, but oh I forgot jedi are the only profession that matter.




never ask for a revamp. u could get it!


no really:

Ranger are waiting for that too.

And CH

And others?


And besides: Why do Jedi get all the fixes nerfs? Because every1 wants them nerfed.

(I want Jedi changed!! (next patch Jedi gets changed) Why wasnt my prof changed!!!)

Why dont we all stop to flame other profs when it is "your" prof that needs to be fixed? (BH, Smuggler, Jedi,...)

But no, its easier to call for a nerf of others...




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bountyhunterGeist
Mon Jun 06, 2005 12:10 am
#60


I call Bounty Hunters for Jedi Hunters becouse I was a Bounty Hunter for 7 month and was not given a single mission that didnt have to do with "Jedi Population Control". I wanted to shoot down the idiots who spent every day camping Mining Outpost, killing NPC's as they appeared.Thismade me somewhat pissed at the entire watered down BH concept.


I have made a few Bounty Hunter proposals in the past that involves Bounty Hunters to be able to hunt players based on faction and PvP rating, not just "Jedi". Until this is done, Bounty Hunters will remain as nothing more than "Jedi Population Control".


We may sit here and discuss smuggler revamp (i do not speak against a smuggler revamp) but I promote a Bounty Hunter revamp too, that actually allow you to be a Bounty Hunter. If that happens I will remake Seani to a BH/Riflewoman at once.


I wish for the smugglers to be able to smuggle as much as I wish for Bounty Hunters to take bounties that have substance. I do not come here to flame them becouse they want some love. I have read many constructive Smuggler proposals in the past, and I agree to most of them. I came here, becouse they blame me, personally, by blaming "all Jedi" instead of SoE for their misery.


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Well may be in your world that is the case but being a BH since launch we had no jedis to hunt all we had was broken or never spawning NPC's. As for the prespect of calling BH's jedi hunters is absurd if the jedi didn't break the rules of vis they would not have a bounty issued for them. As a smuggler i welcome being put on the boards, as a jedi i grind the way we are suppose to in hiding and in the dark. jedi are suppose follow the vis rules to keep from being on the boards but yet the majority complain about jedi gank squads. I as a BH understand the reason why we do it cause atleast 50% of the jedi either hide in houses or run away. While the other 50% have there temps and do need to worry about XP lose. smugglers have been waiting for content and fixes the longest out of any profession. and they deserve there content more then any other profession. alot of profession take it forgranted that they do have stuff where some who have been promised content have no recieved what they are promised. and seeing that you statement saying how they are blaming "All Jedi" only jedi i see having a problem and trolling there boards is you and if this is what your really about you don't have any rights trying to be the jedi corr. seeing you here trying to stir the pot even more to have other professions to hate jedi. and as you can see by my Sig i am a smuggler so i am not trolling i am here to help my profession. why are you here?




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MsNiL
Mon Jun 06, 2005 4:26 am
#61



bountyhunterGeist wrote:
Well may be in your world that is the case but being a BH since launch we had no jedis to hunt all we had was broken or never spawning NPC's. As for the prespect of calling BH's jedi hunters is absurd if the jedi didn't break the rules of vis they would not have a bounty issued for them. As a smuggler i welcome being put on the boards, as a jedi i grind the way we are suppose to in hiding and in the dark. jedi are suppose follow the vis rules to keep from being on the boards but yet the majority complain about jedi gank squads. I as a BH understand the reason why we do it cause atleast 50% of the jedi either hide in houses or run away. While the other 50% have there temps and do need to worry about XP lose. smugglers have been waiting for content and fixes the longest out of any profession. and they deserve there content more then any other profession. alot of profession take it forgranted that they do have stuff where some who have been promised content have no recieved what they are promised. and seeing that you statement saying how they are blaming "All Jedi" only jedi i see having a problem and trolling there boards is you and if this is what your really about you don't have any rights trying to be the jedi corr. seeing you here trying to stir the pot even more to have other professions to hate jedi. and as you can see by my Sig i am a smuggler so i am not trolling i am here to help my profession. why are you here?




I am a guildmaster and a frequent groupleader. I do not have a "I should be doing everything myself" mindset, but rather a "Would be good if we had a master of this and a master of this and let them co-operate".


I have a great interests in systems and game development. When im on the forum I discuss SWG in theirreflection of the movies and reality.


I have played roleplaying games for many years, and had lots of experience with assembling adventures based on theese kind of characters.
If some game-components doesnt properly reflect what they are supposed to be ("smuggler") that is an issue with the game.


I am a frequent visitor to the Smuggler forum, the Commando, the Rangers, the Bounty Hunters, Entertainers and Teras Käsi, as theese are professions that in my opionion isnt working as intended. In my past I have written proposals for smuggler missions, I have written about revamping Commando into tactical units, adding poison/disease DoT's for Rangers, making it possible to take down big-game hunting with Rangers, Entertainer missions (I was also one of the first who proposed Inspiration buffs) and I have been suggesting a better implemention of the Teras Käsi organisation.


I came here to discuss the situation, widen my knowledge about the profession many of my friends play, and maybe add something to the discussion.


Then I see posts such as this one. I report all threads such as this one, regardless of where I find them, as I consider them uneccessary and unconstructive hatemongering. I reported it, just like I do with all similiar posts on the Jedi forum.


I have written in proper english, sharing my beliefs, discussed in non-hostile manner, not accusing you or anybody else for anything.

Yet you label all my posts for trolling... Not based on who I am, but what I play in game.


Why dont they give you boys a forum of their own where they can fight eachother over what profession they play, so that we who actually have more interests in the game than ourown characters can discuss in peace?




--- Cancelled 24th November 2006
Reason: The lack of multiplayer pve content and Star Wars feel.
For 3 years I have tried to find excuses to stay in game but only the expansions offered me what I subscribed for in the first place: A multiplayer Star Wars pve experience with friends around the globe. I found friends but with almost no addition of pve content they dropped out one by one. Now it's my turn.
AngusMacGregor
Mon Jun 06, 2005 4:49 am
#62


MsNil, it's quite obvious that you're only succeeding in stirring things up rather than calming them down. I honestly think it's time that you step away from this thread because you're only making things worse.


I know your intentions are good, but believe it or not, you're not helping matters.




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MsNiL
Mon Jun 06, 2005 4:56 am
#63



AngusMacGregor wrote:


MsNil, it's quite obvious that you're only succeeding in stirring things up rather than calming them down. I honestly think it's time that you step away from this thread because you're only making things worse.

I know your intentions are good, but believe it or not, you're not helping matters.





I guess I should




--- Cancelled 24th November 2006
Reason: The lack of multiplayer pve content and Star Wars feel.
For 3 years I have tried to find excuses to stay in game but only the expansions offered me what I subscribed for in the first place: A multiplayer Star Wars pve experience with friends around the globe. I found friends but with almost no addition of pve content they dropped out one by one. Now it's my turn.
Saarek
Mon Jun 06, 2005 10:45 am
#64






djlowballer wrote:
heh, like we all didnt see this coming:

Jedi fixes:
---Jedi can now hunt smugglers on the terminals
---Jedi can no longer lose to regular combat professions
---Jedi can now craft any item in the game and do it at half resource cost
---Jedi will now have a board devoted to calling nerfs on other professions
Smuggler fixes:
--- Smugglers can craft beer, pie, and melons
--- smugglers no longer will be able to hope for a revamp
--- The smuggler Message board will be removed so that there can be another jedi board
--- Han Solo has been removed from the game and the original trilogy.




Alright thats it.


BH here I come. Just so I can hunt those vermin down.


/headexplodes;





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Alivelle
Mon Jun 06, 2005 2:01 pm
#65


It's all a matter of population ever since CH's had the biggest population.


The profession with the most players gets the most love and there will soon be more Jedi than Smugglers, go figure.

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