Smuggler Archive

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TomoRainer wrote:
To be fair, by definition any slices you could predict more than 50% of the time would be a pattern. Wouldn't be very useful unless you could do it at least, say, 60% of the time, though.

And for the record, I don't think any patterns will ever be found.

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Fair enough. I'm just saying that to ME, if I was going to post here and say I found a pattern, it would have to be predictable 99.99%-100% of the time.

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MISTagent01 wrote:

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TomoRainer wrote:
To be fair, by definition any slices you could predict more than 50% of the time would be a pattern. Wouldn't be very useful unless you could do it at least, say, 60% of the time, though.

And for the record, I don't think any patterns will ever be found.

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Fair enough. I'm just saying that to ME, if I was going to post here and say I found a pattern, it would have to be predictable 99.99%-100% of the time.

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Try what i have been saying. The reason it is not 100% is because you do not know when it changes, but yes it does stay the same color for very short periods of time. I have been using this pattern for about 6 months to make sure what I was seeing was correct and did not want to post untill I felt that it really did work.

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Samaw wrote:

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-Zon- wrote:

look....its RANDOM there is NO way to predict it...if you did get 8/9 then guess what? IT WAS LUCK u know why? ITS RANDOM

I could say hey if I get red then blue then red agan it will be a dam slice and I could be right...I could get it 4/5 times the first 5 times trying it but guess what......ITS RANDOM so next time I did it I bet I would get around 1/5 then 3/5 then 4/5 then 2/5.....know why? ITS RANDOM!!!!!!!!!

Message Edited by -Zon- on 01-19-2005 01:37 PM

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I'll take the flames, but all I'm saying is get yourself 10 weapons,of the same kind and try it. What will it hurt and tell me what you see after doing the ten weapons and for any Smugglers on the Chilastra server ill even provide the crate of weapons, clamps, knives & WUK's. Putting my money were my mouth is so to speak!!!!!

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Chilly smuggler here and I am half tempted to take your money. I am half tempted to say put up a million on this and I will do it. Hell I will do it with my own supplies even. Just so that we don't have to hear another person come up with a stupid reason to say that slicing isn't RANDOM. SLICING IS RANDOM. For the love of all that is good. When you get 4 damage slices and then 6 speed slices guess what its random. When you slice the blue wire for speed 1 time and the blue wire for speed the second time its still RANDOM.

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Chewnada wrote:

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Samaw wrote:

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-Zon- wrote:

look....its RANDOM there is NO way to predict it...if you did get 8/9 then guess what? IT WAS LUCK u know why? ITS RANDOM

I could say hey if I get red then blue then red agan it will be a dam slice and I could be right...I could get it 4/5 times the first 5 times trying it but guess what......ITS RANDOM so next time I did it I bet I would get around 1/5 then 3/5 then 4/5 then 2/5.....know why? ITS RANDOM!!!!!!!!!

Message Edited by -Zon- on 01-19-2005 01:37 PM

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I'll take the flames, but all I'm saying is get yourself 10 weapons,of the same kind and try it. What will it hurt and tell me what you see after doing the ten weapons and for any Smugglers on the Chilastra server ill even provide the crate of weapons, clamps, knives & WUK's. Putting my money were my mouth is so to speak!!!!!

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Chilly smuggler here and I am half tempted to take your money. I am half tempted to say put up a million on this and I will do it. Hell I will do it with my own supplies even. Just so that we don't have to hear another person come up with a stupid reason to say that slicing isn't RANDOM. SLICING IS RANDOM. For the love of all that is good. When you get 4 damage slices and then 6 speed slices guess what its random. When you slice the blue wire for speed 1 time and the blue wire for speed the second time its still RANDOM.

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DrevenStrobe wrote:

I have results of my testing. (talk about a waste of time).

Anyway... R=Red, B=Blue, S=Speed, D=Damage.

Sliced 100 Survival Knives in groups of 10.

RS RS

RD RD

BD BD

BS RD

BD BD

BSRS

RD BS

RD BS

BSBS

RD BS

RD RS

BD BD

BD RS

BD BD

BD BS

RS RD

BD RS

RS RS

BSBS

RD BS

BD BS

RS RS

BS RS

RS BD

RS BS

BS RS

BD BS

BSRS

RD RS

BD RD

RS BD

BD BD

RD BS

BSRS

RS BS

BD RD

RSBD

BD RD

RS RD

RD RD

BD BS

RDBS

BD RD

BS RS

BD RS

BD RS

BD RD

BSBD

BSRS

RD RD

Now...while there are occasional runs on the color of wire, and occasional runs on slice type, and occasionally the two line up, it's not consistent enough for me to stake my reputation on it.

BTW...over 100 slices, the totals are:

RS - 26

RD - 22

BS - 25

BD - 27

Blue - 52

Red - 48

Speed - 51

Damage - 49

Looks random enough to me...

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Message Edited by Samaw on 01-19-2005 08:38 PM

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Samaw wrote:

these are in pairs right left then right correct?

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like the other guy said, it's not accurate unless you test it with maybe 500 items. I had two complete comp suits, EACH slice was encumb except for the 18th. Talk about a string of bad luck cause the dude wanted base, but apparently it got out now i'm spammed to death of people wanting specific slices. Apparently they ask me the opposit of what they want it to be =/

Yeah, as it fully supported the existing view on slicing, I think Dreven's test of 100 knives was a pretty solid one and should end the debate for now (if it wasn't ended before it began). If anyone still thinks there's anything to support the theory in this thread, I recommend slicing 100-1000 items with this method and then reporting back here. As always with these slicing ideas, the burden of proof's on whoever thinks they've discovered something new, so if you want to convince anyone here, it'd behoove you to present a little more evidence than 10 slices.

And.. as long as the topic's up again.. am I the only one who secretly hopes that, someday, someone will find a way of predicting slices? I don't even care about what it'd do for business, or if you could only predict it 51% of the time instead of 50, I just think it'd be neat for someone to ferret out a secret after all this time. Because the truth is it can't be entirely random--it's got to be based on the last digit of pi, or zeta functions, or some other seemingly random calculation--and despite the amount of chaos in the system, someone with a great enough mind and an awful lot of time could pull a pattern out of it all. And that would be a truly amazing feat.

So if I ever seem indulgent towards the slicing theorists, that's why. Yeah yeah, we all know slicing's random, but if some maniac wants to spend their time trying to prove otherwise--and provides a more significant body of proof than 10 slices--I would like to hear about it, if only to see how they're going about attacking the problem.

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SpinningCloud wrote:

Samsaw; "Ok, so isn't quit 80% by that test, only 58%"

OH LORD! Samsaw, 58% on a sample of 100 is STATISTICALLY INSIGNIFICANT!

Get it? It's RANDOM.

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Message Edited by Samaw on 01-19-2005 03:21 PM