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Thread: Slicing Assistant Web Application (a tool to help figure out slices)
That's frickin awesome, nice job, and thanks! 
One question though: Has anybody actually used the tool and compared actual results in game on several weapons?
I plan on doing this on a few high end weapons I've sliced, I have all the numbers written down at home. Off the top of my head though, the actual damage results the tool is showing are slightly higher than what I got in-game, and I wasn't yet near the damage cap...
This is great though.
Message Edited by dfiler on 07-25-2005 10:20 PM
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Nicolas_Frost wrote:
Just a note SonGouki, but if you do impliment weapon caps into your program, you'll likely need to add in a weapon type dropdown box, since several weapons have slightly different caps(e.g. FWG5 max damage is 948.75 while a DE-10 gets 969.25). The simple route would be to just leave the link, but adding such a feature into the program you made would deffinately be nice.
Yeah, that's what I was planning on doing. It would be a massive undertaking though, especially seeing as any of those numbers could easily (and quietly) be changed. It would very likely be tough to maintain then,whichiswhy I'm still contemplating on adding it in or not...
Right now I'm working on adding a box to let people enter their modified speed or speed statso that they can see how their modified DPSwould turn out. If they know their modified speed already then the calculation isn't hard. However,getting it from the speed stat is a little more difficult since hidden decimals make the results from the formula vary by a significant margin from what would show up in the game. I'm working on it though...
This is too good to be on page 3. 
And we really need to figure out what the deal is with the cap on slicing damage.
Jaspor wrote:
This is too good to be on page 3.
And we really need to figure out what the deal is with the cap on slicing damage.
I'm currently trying to assemble a list of ALL weapons available in the game at the moment... it's taking much longer than I thought it would. The devs really went all out with weapons in the CU/RotW releases...
One thing I've noticed though is that I'm seeing trends with weapon caps. It almost seems that a weapon's max damage is dictated by it's CL requirement and the weapon class (ie. pistol, two-handed, knuckler, and so on). I can almost see a correlation, but I need to see more data... If I can figure out the formula then I could likely very easily incorporate weapon caps into the tool that would be extensible enough to cover all weapons (without having to use a drop-down), even when new ones are added.
I think that doing things by formula is going to be risky, thats just a gut feel and could be proved wrong.
I think that a Pull Down for the weapon type is any great issue for the user although I could see that you dont want to do this from a code point of view (paah lazy coders ...j/k)
Another issue you face is that slicing damage caps appear to be different to crafting damage cap. I see a reference somewhere that showed pistols/carbines/rifles. The pistol and carbine slicing cap were something like 14 points lower than crafted damage cap (dont quote me , rough) but apparently the rifle slicing cap is only 1 less that the crafted damage cap.
PS Im now a regular user of your tool. Ive done lots slices and your numbers come out perfect. Thanks for you effort, well appreciated.
fabkins wrote:
Another issue you face is that slicing damage caps appear to be different to crafting damage cap. I see a reference somewhere that showed pistols/carbines/rifles. The pistol and carbine slicing cap were something like 14 points lower than crafted damage cap (dont quote me , rough) but apparently the rifle slicing cap is only 1 less that the crafted damage cap.
Yep, this is really going to be the thing that screws you up...
The slicing damage caps seem LOWER than the crafting damage caps. :/
Some reports seem to indicate the slicing cap for level 54 weapons is around 935 max damage. I'm still curious so see what happens to my DE-10 when I try a level 3 damage slice. Max damage is currently 931, but according to this tool, I got jipped a few points.