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Thread: My fellow Smugglers...

Masal
Tue Jun 08, 2004 6:58 am
#40

Actually a combination of two fo your suggestions may work.


1- Change the name on our houses- While going on strike hurts other players, a name change with a simple statement like Smugglers Revamp Now or whatever gets attention but harms no one. Maybe we can ask every player that agrees to do this. Like bumper stickers. We express an opinion. We still slice, no one gets to get greedy and change the slicing economy but we will see how many support us. Best route for this.. Talk to city mayors. In fact talk to the one in your city! If you live in one. Your own mayor is most likely to help you. And people live by are most likely to be your friends.


Next talk to your guild leader and any other guild leader you can. Again, they know people and can spread the word faster. I think this may actually be the best idea i can think of.


2-Dont slice on one day- A permanent strike will only upset the other players and its not their fault that the devs have not revamped us or not been staffed properly by SOE to get the job done. So how about say a Monday slice ban. Yes, there will be less players playing. We only need players hear we did it. Not shut out most people on the heaviest playing days. Again, if we make it hard for others to achieve their game because we held back our services, such as they are, they will not support us.


My bumper sticker goes up tonight "Smuggler Revamp Now" I have 10 houses and a guild to get started who is with me?



Masal Master Smuggler <AoS> "Smuggler Revamp Now"


PS can some post this to all the galaxy forums? that would help spread the word faster.


Shrendyc
Tue Jun 08, 2004 8:08 am
#41






Rebelmundy wrote:
I support this 100% and will ceace all Smuggling now, as long as I hear something from Caylin reguarding all of this.







Not to be flip -but you areceasing doing something that youhaven't been able todo in the first place. But if you meant that you are ceasing slicing and selling faction and selling spices (not that anyone buys the stuff anymore), then rock on.




"Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and more complex... It takes a touch of genius --- and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction. "
Rebelmundy
Tue Jun 08, 2004 8:17 am
#42

Huh? ok, Ill rephrase...



I will stop slicing, selling spice (which I do, just not near as much), and selling faction if this gets the support of the Smuggler Corrospondant.


These thing coupled with Roleplaying I consider Smuggling because thats the extent of Smuggling allowed by SOE, hence the prostest plans.



THUG X-PRESS

Rebel Colonal Mundy, Master Smuggler
The Guardians, Libertas, Rori
Starsider
Imperiai2
Tue Jun 08, 2004 7:12 pm
#43

Is no one in support of a sit-in of Theed? Again, for the 50th time, I'm trying to organize one on Naritus. I'm getting a little attention in-game, but no one seems to like this idea on the boards. What's the deal?



B'en F'olds of Naritus
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JTGAlpha
Tue Jun 08, 2004 7:27 pm
#44

I'll not be taking part in this. I'm not a Scab. I'm not happy. I agree with all of the principals we hold dear. But this is just plain not going to work. In fact, Mapai, I'm surprised at you. You've been around nearly as long as me. You ought to know better.


1) Roughly 1/3 of the playerbase, in general, even reads these boards. This is a generous estimate. That's not to say that 1/3 of practitioners of the Smuggling Profession read these boards. I have NO idea if we have a higher or lower percentage of board reading participants. So, if the average holds, at least 2/3's of us aren't even going to HEAR about this.


2) As someone has already pointed out..well...we're smugglers. We take advantage of other people's problems, including the problems of our fellow smugglers. I'm not going to comment on the wisdom, nor the ethics involved in this (though I think wisdom would make a better arguement, as smugglers have different rules and ethics of their own).


3) Would the dev's notice or care? Ooo. We aren't selling spice. So what? I'm not selling spice now. Not because I don't have it for sale, but because no one's buying it. The non-slicing might hack some people off, but it's not going to reach the dev's ears (see above). And as for not wearing our titles, how will the dev's even notice that?


So I'm sorry, but this protest isn't going to work, and I'm not going to put myself in a position to lose money at a time when I need to be making it, especially for futile reasons, no matter how right those reasons are.





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dpowell0
Tue Jun 08, 2004 8:35 pm
#45

I'm a bounty hunter and not a smuggler so maybe I have no business posting on this thread, but here goes anyway.


I support you guys 100%. Smuggler needs some love, even if it's just a bit to tide you over till the revamp.


I think you guys will have the best outcome from the sit-in or spam fest of a major city like theed or coronet. Causing a severe server slowdown on a major night like friday or saturday will get sony's attention. I dont know if theyll do anything to help you, but they will at least realized your pissed.


The strike on slicing and spice probably isnt worth doing. You'll get player attention, cuz theyll be pissed they cant get their gear sliced but devs and sony would probably never notice.


Good luck with the sit in.


-Lossk



Lossk Ruskin
Master Tailor / Master Pistoleer
Lok, Stock, and Barrel Mall
1316 -252 in Paradox, Lok
KuroiKenshi
Tue Jun 08, 2004 9:06 pm
#46

I agree, we havnt gotten anything... mother bastaches! In anycase, if any Intrepid Smugglers want to get together, just give me an ingame Email. We can try to decide how we want to organize this on our server.


Danek Kaiser



"When in doubt, flame cone and feign death"



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FrankLee
Wed Jun 09, 2004 1:52 am
#47

Guys, denying services won't work, it'll just ensure that your possible sale goes to someone else.

You want to make a dent? The signs editing, that might help. Make up a batch of spice, sell it at next to nothing on the bazaar, title it something to do with the smuggler protest. Give it away with each slice.

Tell folks you _could_ have picked their slice if the revamp had been done.

Tell them you _could_ have gotten a better slice as master, if the revamp had been done.
"This crappy slice brought to you by Q3P0, and the number 0. That'll be 5k."

Hell, tell an incapped buddy that you're really sorry, but if the REVAMP had been done, you'd be feeding him poison-mitigation spice right now.

Bottom line is, probably more people want to see a Jedi revamp and a Space Expansion than care about Smugglers having a purpose other than crappy armor slices and muon. We'll know by 2005, maybe.



FrankLee
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TucsonMatt
Wed Jun 09, 2004 2:12 am
#48

While I do not deny what your post is saying. I can't in good conscience deny my customers the services that we provide. The way to get things done is not always to deny that thing. While I hope that the profession will getthe changes it deserves I do not think that total denial is that answer.


VolNoorr
Wed Jun 09, 2004 2:04 pm
#49

I'm a Smuggler on Starsider and I'm with you on this. It's just like everything else in this game, they give a date and push it back all the time. Did it with the game and do it with most of the patches.Let's hope we something positive come from this. Seeya when Isee ya.



Opaxa Master Doctor/TKM
The weak deserve their fate!
Datink_Nieleft
Sat Jan 29, 2005 5:40 am
#50

Effective immediately, I resign my position as president of the United States....(oops..wrong speech)



My fellow Smugglers, it has come time for me to pack up the YT and move on to a more legitimate life. I am retiring from SWG effective wed. of next week. It has been a good, long run and I've had plenty of fun along the way. It is nice to see good things slowly happening to our profession and I hope that they will be the things we've asked for.


This has been my first and I am sure will be, my only MMORPG. I must say that the Smuggler community is the tightest knit group in the galaxy, bar none. I want to thank you all for the fun thats been had, both in game on Bria server and here in these forums which I call my home away from Lok...


God speed to you all,...


"Give me a tall ship,...and a star to steer her by...."






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Nicolas_Frost
Sat Jan 29, 2005 5:46 am
#51

Have a good one, man. Hate to see ya go.



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fishbrains
Sat Jan 29, 2005 5:58 am
#52

/salute, best of luck to you man. GL in wherever the currents of life take you.



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