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Thread: Smugglers do have one thing better than everyone else...

SmugglinZane
Thu Jul 28, 2005 4:42 pm
#27






ner0sputnik wrote:


Are you kidding? Your sig was one of the first I openly laughed at.


- I support people getting a clue about what a yellow ribbon really means!


Comedy freakin' gold!





Thanks man, but that wasn't creativity, that was something that hits close to home for me.


Talk about a day that someone flipped the wrong switch though. I had to redo it a couple times because I was getting so sick of the damned ribbons.


Now I'm just too damn lazy to change it.



"Jedi claims of being "broken" are like saying "But my TV isn't widescreen! It's broken! My TV can't show high-def pictures in 1080i, it can only do 720i! It's broken!" Meanwhile, crafters are saying "We'd really like to have a TV that's larger than 12" and gets more than 4 channels and doesn't constantly lose vertical control", and entertainers are saying "Can we get some color instead of this B&W piece of junk?" And smugglers? We're listening to radio programs of "The Shadow" and "The Abbot and Costello Comedy Hour" and hearing FDR's Fireside Chats. We don't even HAVE a damn TV, much less a broken one or a "broken" one by Jedi standards. I'd LOVE to be as "broken" as they are." - The Legendary Solo4114
SmugglinZane
Thu Jul 28, 2005 4:46 pm
#28






TheRodianGrimn wrote:

I posted here 'cause I saw that the original poster has the template I am shooting for...Open yer' eyes bud....I also asked in quite a nice fashion, and I would still appreciate some info on tactics for a Smuggler/BH with some pistols....Is it imperative? No...On another note...Do I think Smugglers need a revamp? YES! Am I tired of all the whining and bashing on the forums? YES! So if anyone has any "helpful input" I would very much appreciate it, otherwise I care not to see any more "smug" replies. Thanks.


Nonnahs







I was out all day, but I'll go ahead and answer your question. Run. Run far away from my template. It was once a great template because I had good defenses and the ability to save my butt with Smuggler specials when needed. It was a survival template that is no longer anything near as productive as it used to be. I get more use out of Stopping Shot than anything else so if you're going for plain old fighting, my template is not where it's at.



"Jedi claims of being "broken" are like saying "But my TV isn't widescreen! It's broken! My TV can't show high-def pictures in 1080i, it can only do 720i! It's broken!" Meanwhile, crafters are saying "We'd really like to have a TV that's larger than 12" and gets more than 4 channels and doesn't constantly lose vertical control", and entertainers are saying "Can we get some color instead of this B&W piece of junk?" And smugglers? We're listening to radio programs of "The Shadow" and "The Abbot and Costello Comedy Hour" and hearing FDR's Fireside Chats. We don't even HAVE a damn TV, much less a broken one or a "broken" one by Jedi standards. I'd LOVE to be as "broken" as they are." - The Legendary Solo4114
Fernas
Thu Jul 28, 2005 5:07 pm
#29

my sig's more sad than anything else...



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Fernas Radiant, Starsider, Eclipse Smuggler
Tyal Eclipse Master Trader
Methorg Aprawi Kettemoor Creature Handler (Retired)

I'm in this for the Experience, not the XP.

Fighters fight.
Crafters craft.
Healers heal.
Smugglers do not smuggle.
twotimes
Thu Jul 28, 2005 5:09 pm
#30






TheRodianGrimn wrote:

I posted here 'cause I saw that the original poster has the template I am shooting for...Open yer' eyes bud....I also asked in quite a nice fashion, and I would still appreciate some info on tactics for a Smuggler/BH with some pistols....Is it imperative? No...On another note...Do I think Smugglers need a revamp? YES! Am I tired of all the whining and bashing on the forums? YES! So if anyone has any "helpful input" I would very much appreciate it, otherwise I care not to see any more "smug" replies. Thanks.


Nonnahs








sorry, i didn't make the connection since your post was halfway down the page and i wasn't sure who you were asking either.


plus half the people here are Smuggler/Bounty Hunter...


anyway, i think our co-Smugglers already gave some good advice. sorry if i was smug. no hard feelin's...





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Thomen
Fri Jul 29, 2005 12:00 am
#31






twotimes wrote:





Thomen wrote:






twotimes wrote:





Zombie_Arsani wrote:






TheRodianGrimn wrote:

Can you give me some stats on your template? I just hit Novice Smuggler/Novice Bounty Hunter on Shadowfire. Also some tips/specials that work well in battle would much appreciated.


Thanks,


Nonnahs


Novice Smuggler/Novice Bounty Hunter/Pistoleer 0100







Teh?







*rubs eyes*

whuuuuuuaaaa?





Guys.. he has a valid question.. sorry to interupt your laughing here.. but is THAT how we treat aspiring Smugglers lately? Have we come so low that we refuse to help the next generation of Smugglers? Many of us will be gone within the next month. Do you think Wes would thank us if we leave him a mess and turn this board, the best that SOE has into a one of whiny/flaming b!tches?


Relax, Smugglers. We get shafted once more.. yes.. We are frustrated and Angry. HELL YEA!


Lets help the guys that follow our tracks and not turn that Forum into the Jedi/BH alike.



Sincerly









oh i'm willing to help. but that question, and i'm not even sure what he was asking, was kinda out of the blue. stuck right in the middle of this thread...

/shrug.




I know.. i m sorry if it sounded to harsh, but 2 years of unlubbed shafting does scary things.



Lawho Iwon
Master Smuggler
Smugglers Alliance Ace

Coalition of the Lost Smugglers
TheRodianGrimn
Fri Jul 29, 2005 12:03 am
#32

I posted here 'cause I saw that the original poster has the template I am shooting for...Open yer' eyes bud....I also asked in quite a nice fashion, and I would still appreciate some info on tactics for a Smuggler/BH with some pistols....Is it imperative? No...On another note...Do I think Smugglers need a revamp? YES! Am I tired of all the whining and bashing on the forums? YES! So if anyone has any "helpful input" I would very much appreciate it, otherwise I care not to see any more "smug" replies. Thanks.


Nonnahs





Grimn Master Jedi / Founder and CEO GrimNdustries
Nonnahs Bootlegger / Co-Founder GrimNdustries
Grimie Grimn Manager GrimNdustries Vendors located in Hero's Legacy City on Talus /way 3021 -2908
Zombie_Arsani
Fri Jul 29, 2005 12:12 am
#33






TheRodianGrimn wrote:

I posted here 'cause I saw that the original poster has the template I am shooting for...Open yer' eyes bud....I also asked in quite a nice fashion, and I would still appreciate some info on tactics for a Smuggler/BH with some pistols....Is it imperative? No...On another note...Do I think Smugglers need a revamp? YES! Am I tired of all the whining and bashing on the forums? YES! So if anyone has any "helpful input" I would very much appreciate it, otherwise I care not to see any more "smug" replies. Thanks.


Nonnahs








Sorry hun, 'Smug' iswhat we do.Can't help it.


As for tactics it really depends on what you plan on doing with the template. GCW PvP? Hunt Jedi? PvE? Hoard loot? Alone? With a group? Different tactics are required for each. We'd need more info on what exactly you're looking for before we can help you.



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She's a twitcher!Shoot 'er in the head!
Order 67 - Every Smuggler is now an enemy of SOE and LucasArts.
Devs won't do what must be done. They only hesitate. We're shown no mercy.


TheRodianGrimn
Fri Jul 29, 2005 12:23 am
#34

Mainly pve...pvp...and hunting high end mobs mostly solo. /thanks for the reply.


Nonnahs





Grimn Master Jedi / Founder and CEO GrimNdustries
Nonnahs Bootlegger / Co-Founder GrimNdustries
Grimie Grimn Manager GrimNdustries Vendors located in Hero's Legacy City on Talus /way 3021 -2908
Thomen
Fri Jul 29, 2005 12:27 am
#35






TheRodianGrimn wrote:

Mainly pve...pvp...and hunting high end mobs mostly solo. /thanks for the reply.


Nonnahs







In that case.. sorry to say, but you might dont want to have Smuggler in your Temp then. No root, No states, No KD.. but a measly snare, 2 Daze effect that have a reaply timer, Feign Death which fails around 80% (at Master Smuggler), Last Ditch (High damage but if your target suvives it, you are dead) and not to forget Reckless Shot.



Lawho Iwon
Master Smuggler
Smugglers Alliance Ace

Coalition of the Lost Smugglers
Zombie_Arsani
Fri Jul 29, 2005 12:31 am
#36

For solo you are gonna want Stopping Shot, no doubt, espectially for animals or melee mobs. Duelist stance is you friend for ranged mobs.


If you're going to be fighting multiples at once, make sure you take off auto fire so that you can effectively use Concussion Shot and panic shot. I'd suggest when useing panic shot to hit with underhanded shot first, then panic, that way they are totally unable to move, and when the mezz breaks you know it by the fact that they get up.


For damage output I used critical shot alternated with torso shot, as one recharges I fire the other. Get some good action recharging food/drinks/spices 'cause you have a good enough pistol speed you are going to run through your action fast.


For PvP I can't help much, havn't gotten into that much yet.



_________Arsani 'Living Dead Girl' Co'lace ~ Queen of the Banned________
She's a twitcher!Shoot 'er in the head!
Order 67 - Every Smuggler is now an enemy of SOE and LucasArts.
Devs won't do what must be done. They only hesitate. We're shown no mercy.


Thomen
Fri Jul 29, 2005 12:39 am
#37






Zombie_Arsani wrote:

For solo you are gonna want Stopping Shot, no doubt, espectially for animals or melee mobs. Duelist stance is you friend for ranged mobs.


If you're going to be fighting multiples at once, make sure you take off auto fire so that you can effectively use Concussion Shot and panic shot. I'd suggest when useing panic shot to hit with underhanded shot first, then panic, that way they are totally unable to move, and when the mezz breaks you know it by the fact that they get up.


For damage output I used critical shot alternated with torso shot, as one recharges I fire the other. Get some good action recharging food/drinks/spices 'cause you have a good enough pistol speed you are going to run through your action fast.


For PvP I can't help much, havn't gotten into that much yet.





All good points, Arsani, but Smuggler adds kinda cheap ass defense mods, and no real damage. only uselfull is concussion shot, but withthe timer on it he is either dead or running when he get more then 2 mobs. Its sometimes even hard to fight 2 mobs. If he want Smuggler in his templete he should take Carbineer, for KD, Snare and high damage.. thats my advice. =)



Lawho Iwon
Master Smuggler
Smugglers Alliance Ace

Coalition of the Lost Smugglers
Zombie_Arsani
Fri Jul 29, 2005 12:54 am
#38






Thomen wrote:





Zombie_Arsani wrote:

For solo you are gonna want Stopping Shot, no doubt, espectially for animals or melee mobs. Duelist stance is you friend for ranged mobs.


If you're going to be fighting multiples at once, make sure you take off auto fire so that you can effectively use Concussion Shot and panic shot. I'd suggest when useing panic shot to hit with underhanded shot first, then panic, that way they are totally unable to move, and when the mezz breaks you know it by the fact that they get up.


For damage output I used critical shot alternated with torso shot, as one recharges I fire the other. Get some good action recharging food/drinks/spices 'cause you have a good enough pistol speed you are going to run through your action fast.


For PvP I can't help much, havn't gotten into that much yet.





All good points, Arsani, but Smuggler adds kinda cheap ass defense mods, and no real damage. only uselfull is concussion shot, but withthe timer on it he is either dead or running when he get more then 2 mobs. Its sometimes even hard to fight 2 mobs. If he want Smuggler in his templete he should take Carbineer, for KD, Snare and high damage.. thats my advice. =)





Oh I agree totally. Smuggler/BH is a very gimped combination. Almost totally useless for solo combat. For group combat, well, you get me, Tsb, and ournon-smuggler 'brother' together for some hunting and we can totally control and entire nest of enranged rancors easy. But since thats the template he asked about, thats the one I answered for.



_________Arsani 'Living Dead Girl' Co'lace ~ Queen of the Banned________
She's a twitcher!Shoot 'er in the head!
Order 67 - Every Smuggler is now an enemy of SOE and LucasArts.
Devs won't do what must be done. They only hesitate. We're shown no mercy.


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