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Thread: smuggler /bh combo
maxtheusher wrote:
The CU will be a homecoming for me. It has nothing to do with the "in" thing.
I agree with this wholeheartedly. Now that my DE-10 is no longer shackled to Pistoleer, I'm overjoyed to dump the prof and happily take up both MSmug and MBH. Not just because of the potential content or any perceiveduberness,but because I see it as the ultimate incarnation of "Scum and Villainy" that I so loved in Star-Wars. And nowI'm more than merely the sum of my profs. I'm not just the slinking fugitive and lawbreaker, and I'm not just a rent-a-cop. I'mthe perp AND the law! The crooked cop.If I run aload of expensive spice back from Kessel and my client skips town, I'll track the m'fer down. If the competition gets a little too heated, I'll put word out on the street and every scumbag looking for a chump-change will be after his ass. If a run gets too hot and my client is after me, I'll know someone's coming and be ready for trouble (or dissappear). I'm trusted by none, but sought-out immediately if there's dirty-deeding to be done!
I'm the guy holding a gun under the table, AND over it. 
I vote to name this the "Scum and Villainry" combo!! 
-Zz
FinderComnet wrote:
All you have to do is look around, adding BH to a template IS what the masses are doing. Rude awakening... hahahaha.
You are correct,the BH.Smuggler isn't even close to the uber templates out there. BH/rifle and BH/Carbine are far superior as far as PVP is concerened. Whoa... BH is in those templates, so guess what.... yourgoing to be seeing a lot of Bounty Hunters.Do you really think your the only ones who see the benefit of adding BH to your template? Welcome to being a part of the masses.
As far as RPing aslimy scoundrel who can smuggle, call hits, andis in the know enough to slip from radar, that can be done with outbeing Bounty Hunter.I have been doing it since 2003. Beinga Bounty Hunter changes nothing other than being able to take out game offered jedi hits and doing a planet hopping mission. Neither of which changes my content in RP.
I think the BH/Smuggler is a great combo. I really do. It has the Troubleshooter profession written all over it. There are also many other alternative templates that can be played and enjoyed and I will be going that route. You go your route, I will go mine. Have fun.
VegitoX wrote:
Not to be rude, but I could care less what 'other' professions are supplementing their professions with. The thread's titileis Msmuggler/BH Combo; I replied to a statement in which someone claimed that MS/MBH would become the FOTM. I dont believe I was commenting on whether or not everyone was going touse Bounty Hunter in their respective templates or not. I've also been playing a Smuggler since 2003, but pardon me if I want to legitamately take a hit on a competitor...or walk into a Cantina fully armed and have permission from the Empire to do so.
And I will have fun, thank you, and I hope you'll do the same.
My appologies, I thought you were speaking of my thoughts on the matter. You are correct in the matter that BH/Smuggler would be a foolish choice for a FOTM, its pretty low as far as actual hard numbers.Yes, the choice in specials is nice but not being able to hit that uber defense layered skill guy, won't make the abilities worth squat. What makes BH/Smuggler interesting is the Troubleshooter ideal behind it. You need something shady done, call the BH/Smuggler, they can take care of almost all your illegal needs.
That still doesn't change my view on there will be just to darn many BHs. I feel it kind of dilutes the whole aspect of the world and the BH profession to have so many. Being I wish to add more flavor to the galaxy, I will bow aside to the other BH's; so there are more diverse characters forpeopleto deal with and those who really want to play the BH can enjoy being special.
- add content, in terms of hunting Jedi
- stick it to Jedi for existing and unbalancing the GCW
But, if the GCW reignites in the way I certainly hope it does, we'll see the better PvP templates come to the fore.
I think that the MBH suppliment to MS will be 'uber' WITHIN all of the MS templates...not over the entire set of professions.
FinderComnet wrote:
VegitoX wrote:
Not to be rude, but I could care less what 'other' professions are supplementing their professions with. The thread's titileis Msmuggler/BH Combo; I replied to a statement in which someone claimed that MS/MBH would become the FOTM. I dont believe I was commenting on whether or not everyone was going touse Bounty Hunter in their respective templates or not. I've also been playing a Smuggler since 2003, but pardon me if I want to legitamately take a hit on a competitor...or walk into a Cantina fully armed and have permission from the Empire to do so.
And I will have fun, thank you, and I hope you'll do the same.
My appologies, I thought you were speaking of my thoughts on the matter. You are correct in the matter that BH/Smuggler would be a foolish choice for a FOTM, its pretty low as far as actual hard numbers.Yes, the choice in specials is nice but not being able to hit that uber defense layered skill guy, won't make the abilities worth squat. What makes BH/Smuggler interesting is the Troubleshooter ideal behind it. You need something shady done, call the BH/Smuggler, they can take care of almost all your illegal needs.
That still doesn't change my view on there will be just to darn many BHs. I feel it kind of dilutes the whole aspect of the world and the BH profession to have so many. Being I wish to add more flavor to the galaxy, I will bow aside to the other BH's; so there are more diverse characters forpeopleto deal with and those who really want to play the BH can enjoy being special.
Gotcha, I see where you're coming from. You do have a very good point, one that I hadnt previously considered. Who knows, maybe when the Revamp comes around *cough* tomorrow (maybe) I will see so many BH's that I will want to change my template idea. *sigh*
SPinningCloud what kind of job do you have, and how can I be down!? I've always wanted to see The Great Wall!
FinderComnet wrote:
All you have to do is look around, adding BH to a template IS what the masses are doing. Rude awakening... hahahaha.
You are correct,the BH.Smuggler isn't even close to the uber templates out there. BH/rifle and BH/Carbine are far superior as far as PVP is concerened. Whoa... BH is in those templates, so guess what.... yourgoing to be seeing a lot of Bounty Hunters.Do you really think your the only ones who see the benefit of adding BH to your template? Welcome to being a part of the masses.
As far as RPing aslimy scoundrel who can smuggle, call hits, andis in the know enough to slip from radar, that can be done with outbeing Bounty Hunter.I have been doing it since 2003. Beinga Bounty Hunter changes nothing other than being able to take out game offered jedi hits and doing a planet hopping mission. Neither of which changes my content in RP.
I think the BH/Smuggler is a great combo. I really do. It has the Troubleshooter profession written all over it. There are also many other alternative templates that can be played and enjoyed and I will be going that route. You go your route, I will go mine. Have fun.
maxtheusher wrote:
FinderComnet wrote:
All you have to do is look around, adding BH to a template IS what the masses are doing. Rude awakening... hahahaha.
You are correct,the BH.Smuggler isn't even close to the uber templates out there. BH/rifle and BH/Carbine are far superior as far as PVP is concerened. Whoa... BH is in those templates, so guess what.... yourgoing to be seeing a lot of Bounty Hunters.Do you really think your the only ones who see the benefit of adding BH to your template? Welcome to being a part of the masses.
As far as RPing aslimy scoundrel who can smuggle, call hits, andis in the know enough to slip from radar, that can be done with outbeing Bounty Hunter.I have been doing it since 2003. Beinga Bounty Hunter changes nothing other than being able to take out game offered jedi hits and doing a planet hopping mission. Neither of which changes my content in RP.
I think the BH/Smuggler is a great combo. I really do. It has the Troubleshooter profession written all over it. There are also many other alternative templates that can be played and enjoyed and I will be going that route. You go your route, I will go mine. Have fun.
I'll lay a Melee stacker (yes they do still exist), a doc/carb/defense stacker, or a rifleman/defense stacker against any combo with BH in it any day. I will fight any other template with BH in it and win at least 50% of the time. I don't care if they have rifles, carbs, commando, or the GOD HIMSELF profession as their other prof. Those above profs? Okay, if I time my roots/KDs right I can take the melee guy (if I don't run out of action before his Health is halfway down), The doc/carb guy is healing himself to full every time, while keeping me "crowd-controlled" and the rifleman/defense guy is literally just standing there shooting me, and I'm watching my health go down, while his is being touched maybe half as much. And some of those template can include smuggler, for the root and the delays. So saying that Smug/BH is the uberest Smuggler template is overestimating the smuggler/bh as well.
Anyone who chooses this FOTM combo, or even a BH/blank or Smuggler/blank combo will be gone within a month, off to some stacker template.
But then the kind of person who really needs to win every fight, and be the best they can be, wouldn't come within two hundred miles of a forum like this
Part of being a Smuggler is *not* being the best, *not* being uber and *not* picking what necessarily makes sense